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	<title>Comments on: NOM Doubles Its Maine War Chest, Claims Special Rights</title>
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		<title>By: Chris McCoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris McCoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 20:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Timothy Kincaid said:
&lt;blockquote&gt;You are mistaken. Churches cannot give verbal support to a candidate (though, of course, many do). That is in violation of IRS code and technically they could lose their tax exemption for contributions.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Thanks for the correction. Mea Culpa. Had I done a little digging, I would have found this &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=161131,00.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;resource&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Timothy Kincaid said:</p>
<blockquote><p>You are mistaken. Churches cannot give verbal support to a candidate (though, of course, many do). That is in violation of IRS code and technically they could lose their tax exemption for contributions.</p></blockquote>
<p>Thanks for the correction. Mea Culpa. Had I done a little digging, I would have found this <a href="http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=161131,00.html" rel="nofollow">resource</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/10/24/15922/comment-page-1#comment-52613</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Additionally, they can give verbal support to candidates, including, hypothetically, telling church-goers that they will reap eternal punishment for not voting for a specific candidate.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Chris, 

You are mistaken.  Churches &lt;b&gt;cannot&lt;/b&gt; give verbal support to a candidate (though, of course, many do).  That is in violation of IRS code and technically they could lose their tax exemption for contributions (a real biggie).*  They cannot tell you to vote for Joe Smith, but they can tell you that you will burn in eternal torment if you vote for a candidate that supports the evil homosexual agenda. 

* Interestingly, the only church I know of which the IRS pursued is Pasadena&#039;s All Saints Episcopal - a liberal church that supported a Democrat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Additionally, they can give verbal support to candidates, including, hypothetically, telling church-goers that they will reap eternal punishment for not voting for a specific candidate.</p></blockquote>
<p>Chris, </p>
<p>You are mistaken.  Churches <b>cannot</b> give verbal support to a candidate (though, of course, many do).  That is in violation of IRS code and technically they could lose their tax exemption for contributions (a real biggie).*  They cannot tell you to vote for Joe Smith, but they can tell you that you will burn in eternal torment if you vote for a candidate that supports the evil homosexual agenda. </p>
<p>* Interestingly, the only church I know of which the IRS pursued is Pasadena&#8217;s All Saints Episcopal &#8211; a liberal church that supported a Democrat.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris McCoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris McCoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David said:
&lt;blockquote&gt;First the Mormons taint the Prop 8 campaign in California and now the Roman Catholic Diocese is donating over half a million to the anti-gay referendum in Maine.

So much for separation of church and state. I hope this is challenged in court if it’s approved and I hope the suit makes the church influence an issue for overturning it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Unfortunately, the law as it stands currently, is that Churches are only barred from supporting specific individual candidates financially.

They are not barred from contributing financially to any propositions or measures, or to PACs, or to the political parties (RNC/DNC) themselves.

Additionally, they can give verbal support to candidates, including, hypothetically, telling church-goers that they will reap eternal punishment for not voting for a specific candidate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David said:</p>
<blockquote><p>First the Mormons taint the Prop 8 campaign in California and now the Roman Catholic Diocese is donating over half a million to the anti-gay referendum in Maine.</p>
<p>So much for separation of church and state. I hope this is challenged in court if it’s approved and I hope the suit makes the church influence an issue for overturning it.</p></blockquote>
<p>Unfortunately, the law as it stands currently, is that Churches are only barred from supporting specific individual candidates financially.</p>
<p>They are not barred from contributing financially to any propositions or measures, or to PACs, or to the political parties (RNC/DNC) themselves.</p>
<p>Additionally, they can give verbal support to candidates, including, hypothetically, telling church-goers that they will reap eternal punishment for not voting for a specific candidate.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Rush</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Rush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 21:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan: Thanks for the clarification. I didn&#039;t know the full meaning of &quot;reporting deadline.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan: Thanks for the clarification. I didn&#8217;t know the full meaning of &#8220;reporting deadline.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 17:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The Roman Catholic Diocese of Portland has contributed a total of $550,000 to the “yes” campaign.&quot;

First the Mormons taint the Prop 8 campaign in California and now the Roman Catholic Diocese is donating over half a million to the anti-gay referendum in Maine.  

So much for separation of church and state.  I hope this is challenged in court if it&#039;s approved and I hope the suit makes the church influence an issue for overturning it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Roman Catholic Diocese of Portland has contributed a total of $550,000 to the “yes” campaign.&#8221;</p>
<p>First the Mormons taint the Prop 8 campaign in California and now the Roman Catholic Diocese is donating over half a million to the anti-gay referendum in Maine.  </p>
<p>So much for separation of church and state.  I hope this is challenged in court if it&#8217;s approved and I hope the suit makes the church influence an issue for overturning it.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 15:38:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard:

No one ever said there was a deadline after which you couldn&#039;t donate.  I believe that you are thinking about reporting deadlines.  On certain specific dates, both sides have to report what they have received and what they have spent.  One deadline was midnight on September 30.  The campaign asked for people to donate in advance of that deadline in order to show the media and the world that they had strong financial support.  But that was not the last opportunity to donate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard:</p>
<p>No one ever said there was a deadline after which you couldn&#8217;t donate.  I believe that you are thinking about reporting deadlines.  On certain specific dates, both sides have to report what they have received and what they have spent.  One deadline was midnight on September 30.  The campaign asked for people to donate in advance of that deadline in order to show the media and the world that they had strong financial support.  But that was not the last opportunity to donate.</p>
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		<title>By: Eddie89</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eddie89</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 02:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if the Mormons are funneling money into NOM and then NOM sends it to Stand for Marriage in Maine?

I suppose that the LDS church learned it&#039;s lesson from Prop. 8 and is now funding anti-marriage equality campaigns more discreetly.

Anyone know if the council of the 12 has put out the call for Mormons to contribute to SFM?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if the Mormons are funneling money into NOM and then NOM sends it to Stand for Marriage in Maine?</p>
<p>I suppose that the LDS church learned it&#8217;s lesson from Prop. 8 and is now funding anti-marriage equality campaigns more discreetly.</p>
<p>Anyone know if the council of the 12 has put out the call for Mormons to contribute to SFM?</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Rush</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Rush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 22:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps I&#039;m missing something, but I think we were led to believe there was a legally mandated deadline for donations earlier in October. I recall the deadline was a specific day and time. What was that all about?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps I&#8217;m missing something, but I think we were led to believe there was a legally mandated deadline for donations earlier in October. I recall the deadline was a specific day and time. What was that all about?</p>
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		<title>By: Emily K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emily K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 22:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that I have regular full-time employment, I&#039;ll donate some $$. I was also approved for Food Stamps recently. So my belt is getting a bit looser. I can almost breathe again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that I have regular full-time employment, I&#8217;ll donate some $$. I was also approved for Food Stamps recently. So my belt is getting a bit looser. I can almost breathe again.</p>
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		<title>By: thetroubleis</title>
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		<dc:creator>thetroubleis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 21:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for posting this. As a Mainer, I&#039;m pissed that at all the lying that is happening by the opposition.

I can only hope that hate won&#039;t win.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for posting this. As a Mainer, I&#8217;m pissed that at all the lying that is happening by the opposition.</p>
<p>I can only hope that hate won&#8217;t win.</p>
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