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	<title>Comments on: A Call for Christian Action in Uganda &#8211; A Time to Show the Love</title>
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		<title>By: werdna</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/10/28/16104/comment-page-1#comment-53055</link>
		<dc:creator>werdna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 16:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still no peep from US religious groups? Well it looks like Throckmorton&#039;s Facebook group has at least attracted attention in Uganda:

http://www.ugpulse.com/articles/daily/news.asp?about=Activists+use+facebook+to+fight+Uganda+Homosexual+bill&amp;ID=13203</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still no peep from US religious groups? Well it looks like Throckmorton&#8217;s Facebook group has at least attracted attention in Uganda:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ugpulse.com/articles/daily/news.asp?about=Activists+use+facebook+to+fight+Uganda+Homosexual+bill&#038;ID=13203" rel="nofollow">http://www.ugpulse.com/articles/daily/news.asp?about=Activists+use+facebook+to+fight+Uganda+Homosexual+bill&#038;ID=13203</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mike Airhart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Airhart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 00:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Throckmorton falsely states that Exodus has condemned the legislation.

It has not. An unofficial blog post by Randy Thomas carries none of the official weight of a press release or a statement by the board.

Exodus issued numerous press releases and statements in support of the launch conference for the vigilante and death-penalty campaign. A single whispered blog post is in no way a repudiation of the bill -- or Don Schmierer&#039;s role in launching it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Throckmorton falsely states that Exodus has condemned the legislation.</p>
<p>It has not. An unofficial blog post by Randy Thomas carries none of the official weight of a press release or a statement by the board.</p>
<p>Exodus issued numerous press releases and statements in support of the launch conference for the vigilante and death-penalty campaign. A single whispered blog post is in no way a repudiation of the bill &#8212; or Don Schmierer&#8217;s role in launching it.</p>
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		<title>By: SharonB</title>
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		<dc:creator>SharonB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 22:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They love us the way the &quot;good Germans&quot; loved their disappearing neighbors with the yellow triangles.

&#039;Bout that much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They love us the way the &#8220;good Germans&#8221; loved their disappearing neighbors with the yellow triangles.</p>
<p>&#8216;Bout that much.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott VanTussenbrook</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott VanTussenbrook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh I&#039;m sure, the American Christians are ready to own this, fix it, and do the right thing.

And they will.

Any second now, I&#039;m sure.

In fact, I&#039;m holding my breath.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh I&#8217;m sure, the American Christians are ready to own this, fix it, and do the right thing.</p>
<p>And they will.</p>
<p>Any second now, I&#8217;m sure.</p>
<p>In fact, I&#8217;m holding my breath.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben in Oakland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben in Oakland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...and otherwise act with malice and contempt towards people that have done no one any harm. 
...&quot;

I would amend that:

and otherwise act with malicie and ocntempt towards people that THEY DO NOT KNOW, KNOW NOTHING ABOUT, AND HAVE NOT DONE THEM, NOR INTEND TO DO TO THEM, ANY HARM.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;and otherwise act with malice and contempt towards people that have done no one any harm.<br />
&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>I would amend that:</p>
<p>and otherwise act with malicie and ocntempt towards people that THEY DO NOT KNOW, KNOW NOTHING ABOUT, AND HAVE NOT DONE THEM, NOR INTEND TO DO TO THEM, ANY HARM.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff W.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 06:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Timothy,

Your analysis of &quot;Christian&quot; love is revelatory and sad and true. I&#039;ve forwarded this piece on to several friends. Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Timothy,</p>
<p>Your analysis of &#8220;Christian&#8221; love is revelatory and sad and true. I&#8217;ve forwarded this piece on to several friends. Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Trevor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trevor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 06:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting.  One wonders how for their version of &quot;love&quot; contrasts with the biblical definition of love.  Lets recount:

Love is patient -fail
love is kind. -fail
It does not envy -fail
it does not boast, -fail
it is not proud -fail
It is not rude, -fail
it is not self-seeking, -whopper fail
it is not easily angered, -fail
it keeps no record of wrongs. -fail
Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. -fail
It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.  -fail</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting.  One wonders how for their version of &#8220;love&#8221; contrasts with the biblical definition of love.  Lets recount:</p>
<p>Love is patient -fail<br />
love is kind. -fail<br />
It does not envy -fail<br />
it does not boast, -fail<br />
it is not proud -fail<br />
It is not rude, -fail<br />
it is not self-seeking, -whopper fail<br />
it is not easily angered, -fail<br />
it keeps no record of wrongs. -fail<br />
Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. -fail<br />
It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.  -fail</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 05:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Vancity, I clarified that final sentence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Vancity, I clarified that final sentence.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynn David</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynn David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 05:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Timothy you couldn&#039;t have nailed it any better.  

The Abrahamic religions as concerns homosexuality do not have perfect information in their writings, yet they allow their members to sublimate their hatreds concerning homosexuality in the religions precepts and instead [attempt to] call it love.  

Americans have been well gone that route, and yet the ministries of Exodus still have problems with acceptance from local churches.   Uganda represent the other side of that spectrum; their indifference (aka love) only comes with an absolute repentance.   A self-assured righteousness anchors their will.  But sublimated hate does not yield love.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Timothy you couldn&#8217;t have nailed it any better.  </p>
<p>The Abrahamic religions as concerns homosexuality do not have perfect information in their writings, yet they allow their members to sublimate their hatreds concerning homosexuality in the religions precepts and instead [attempt to] call it love.  </p>
<p>Americans have been well gone that route, and yet the ministries of Exodus still have problems with acceptance from local churches.   Uganda represent the other side of that spectrum; their indifference (aka love) only comes with an absolute repentance.   A self-assured righteousness anchors their will.  But sublimated hate does not yield love.</p>
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		<title>By: David C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>David C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 03:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christian anti-gay evangelicals seem only interested in offering a love that is conditional, which is not a genuine love at all. We are not here to please them and live by their moral code when their values give an OK to lie, bear false witness, preach hate, incite to violence, and otherwise act with malice and contempt towards people that have done no one any harm. 

We as gay Americans and citizens of other countries want only to be let alone to love those that love us and to be judged by our contributions to our communities, our families, and our countries. We are not second class people and we will not accept a lesser station simply to suit ignorant prejudice and ancient superstition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christian anti-gay evangelicals seem only interested in offering a love that is conditional, which is not a genuine love at all. We are not here to please them and live by their moral code when their values give an OK to lie, bear false witness, preach hate, incite to violence, and otherwise act with malice and contempt towards people that have done no one any harm. </p>
<p>We as gay Americans and citizens of other countries want only to be let alone to love those that love us and to be judged by our contributions to our communities, our families, and our countries. We are not second class people and we will not accept a lesser station simply to suit ignorant prejudice and ancient superstition.</p>
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