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	<title>Comments on: Uganda Parliament, Religious Leaders Weigh Death Penalty for LGBT People</title>
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	<description>News, analysis and fact-checking of anti-gay rhetoric</description>
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		<title>By: Seeing Is Believing &#124; The Monster From The Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seeing Is Believing &#124; The Monster From The Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 08:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] would be blind and deaf to the goings on in the world around us. None of us would be aware of the threatening pink genocide in Uganda, or even be aware that the SA government has completely ignored our calls to condemn the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] would be blind and deaf to the goings on in the world around us. None of us would be aware of the threatening pink genocide in Uganda, or even be aware that the SA government has completely ignored our calls to condemn the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Waiter, There&#8217;s A Bigot In My Soup &#124; The Monster From The Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/11/02/16160/comment-page-1#comment-53928</link>
		<dc:creator>Waiter, There&#8217;s A Bigot In My Soup &#124; The Monster From The Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is even a provision for Ugandans who flee the country for fear of being persecuted because of their sexual orientation [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Truth Wins Out - Evangelical Ducks Aside as U.S. Aid Is Redirected to Kill Ugandans with HIV/AIDS</title>
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		<dc:creator>Truth Wins Out - Evangelical Ducks Aside as U.S. Aid Is Redirected to Kill Ugandans with HIV/AIDS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 03:42:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the despotic country&#8217;s already-draconian sentence of life imprisonment for LGBT Ugandans. As Box Turtle Bulletin has observed, the legislation [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Death Penalty or Life Imprisonment Recommended for Gays and Lesbians - God Discussion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Death Penalty or Life Imprisonment Recommended for Gays and Lesbians - God Discussion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 14:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Box Turtle has extensive reports on this legislation &#8230; and the American Christians who are helping to make it happen. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: &#8230; and everyday life</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/11/02/16160/comment-page-1#comment-53233</link>
		<dc:creator>&#8230; and everyday life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] As horrifying as this is, it gets worse, since the Ugandan authorities responsible for this proposed legislation have received direct and indirect support from a variety of American and Western forces.  First, those in the US pouring money into Maine to repeal its marriage equality legislation—which is on the ballot today—have over the years also made alliances with anti-gay forces in Uganda. American megachurch pastor Rick Warren once touted his relationships with those in Uganda now pushing these measure, though he claims to have disassociated himself from them in recent years. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] As horrifying as this is, it gets worse, since the Ugandan authorities responsible for this proposed legislation have received direct and indirect support from a variety of American and Western forces.  First, those in the US pouring money into Maine to repeal its marriage equality legislation—which is on the ballot today—have over the years also made alliances with anti-gay forces in Uganda. American megachurch pastor Rick Warren once touted his relationships with those in Uganda now pushing these measure, though he claims to have disassociated himself from them in recent years. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: paul j stein</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/11/02/16160/comment-page-1#comment-53230</link>
		<dc:creator>paul j stein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just another way to keep the &quot;faithful&quot; in check and making babies. Life is damn cheap in that country and killing the faggots is another way to hold your power. Make no mistake, they will kill you as soon as look at you, and get a pat on the back for it!  I have personal experience with that attitude from now imprisoned (29 3/4 years) Ugandans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just another way to keep the &#8220;faithful&#8221; in check and making babies. Life is damn cheap in that country and killing the faggots is another way to hold your power. Make no mistake, they will kill you as soon as look at you, and get a pat on the back for it!  I have personal experience with that attitude from now imprisoned (29 3/4 years) Ugandans.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/11/02/16160/comment-page-1#comment-53176</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 07:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone know what the Bahais in Uganda have said about this bill? I have read unverified accounts that individual Bahais have previously spoken out in favor of condemning homosexuals, but I have not heard if the Bahai community has made an official comment about this bill or any of the related persecution of homosexuals in Uganda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone know what the Bahais in Uganda have said about this bill? I have read unverified accounts that individual Bahais have previously spoken out in favor of condemning homosexuals, but I have not heard if the Bahai community has made an official comment about this bill or any of the related persecution of homosexuals in Uganda.</p>
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		<title>By: joel</title>
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		<dc:creator>joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 07:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>heard my father make the incontinence claim before.  And i asked him if it was true.. and he answered, &quot;yes!&quot;.
My father loves sunday preachers and likes the news.. have no idea where he got this.
Any ideas?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>heard my father make the incontinence claim before.  And i asked him if it was true.. and he answered, &#8220;yes!&#8221;.<br />
My father loves sunday preachers and likes the news.. have no idea where he got this.<br />
Any ideas?</p>
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		<title>By: joel</title>
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		<dc:creator>joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 04:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; “touch[ing] another person with the intention of committing the act of homosexuality.”&quot; 

I wonder how their going to identify this...  When they refer to act of homosexuality.. does it ONLY refer to sodomy?  Or does it encompass holding hands, kissing, showing affection etc..?

&quot;Adds an extra-territorial and extradition provisions, allowing Uganda to prosecute LGBT Ugandans living abroad.&quot;

Due to the limitations of a visa... they would still need to return home at some point.  Can they really force the return of an Ugandan from another nation or must they wait the return of the Ugandan in order to punish them?

&quot;he assured the panel that its passage would give Uganda a place of honor among civilized nations.&quot; 

Yet not really the christian ones. 


Now the question stands.. how can you change their hearts?  

As long as they believe homosexuality is evil and believe all the &#039;proofs&#039; that homosexuality is degenerated... then their sense of justice will not flail.. rather it should get stronger.  

How did gay citizens rise from the severely oppressed state they lived centuries(or decades ago) in other countries to an equal or closer to equal status... no idea.  

It will be harder now for LGBT Ugandans to achieve equality... not only are their brothers and sisters(their government and population) fighting for upholding morality, but they are also rather empowered to counter the threat other nations evil promulgation of gay rights poses. Will they listen? &quot;Criminalizes all speech and peaceful assembly for those who advocate on behalf of LGBT citizens&quot; It seems farther away now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; “touch[ing] another person with the intention of committing the act of homosexuality.”&#8221; </p>
<p>I wonder how their going to identify this&#8230;  When they refer to act of homosexuality.. does it ONLY refer to sodomy?  Or does it encompass holding hands, kissing, showing affection etc..?</p>
<p>&#8220;Adds an extra-territorial and extradition provisions, allowing Uganda to prosecute LGBT Ugandans living abroad.&#8221;</p>
<p>Due to the limitations of a visa&#8230; they would still need to return home at some point.  Can they really force the return of an Ugandan from another nation or must they wait the return of the Ugandan in order to punish them?</p>
<p>&#8220;he assured the panel that its passage would give Uganda a place of honor among civilized nations.&#8221; </p>
<p>Yet not really the christian ones. </p>
<p>Now the question stands.. how can you change their hearts?  </p>
<p>As long as they believe homosexuality is evil and believe all the &#8216;proofs&#8217; that homosexuality is degenerated&#8230; then their sense of justice will not flail.. rather it should get stronger.  </p>
<p>How did gay citizens rise from the severely oppressed state they lived centuries(or decades ago) in other countries to an equal or closer to equal status&#8230; no idea.  </p>
<p>It will be harder now for LGBT Ugandans to achieve equality&#8230; not only are their brothers and sisters(their government and population) fighting for upholding morality, but they are also rather empowered to counter the threat other nations evil promulgation of gay rights poses. Will they listen? &#8220;Criminalizes all speech and peaceful assembly for those who advocate on behalf of LGBT citizens&#8221; It seems farther away now.</p>
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		<title>By: Feel-the-love department : Civil Commotion</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/11/02/16160/comment-page-1#comment-53156</link>
		<dc:creator>Feel-the-love department : Civil Commotion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 03:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] clergy are lining-up in support of the new anti-gay [...]</description>
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