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	<title>Comments on: Scozzafava Out, Hoffman Ahead, Republican Leadership Sends &#8220;Moderates Not Welcome&#8221; Message</title>
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		<title>By: ohio voting issues 2009 &#124; Latest News &#124; Fresh News &#124; Hot News</title>
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		<dc:creator>ohio voting issues 2009 &#124; Latest News &#124; Fresh News &#124; Hot News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 04:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] COMMENT   Maine&#8217;s Clear Choice . November 2nd, 2009 Over the weekend, Dede Scozzafava, the very gay-supportive Republican candidate for the 23rd Congressional district in New York pulled out of the race. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] COMMENT   Maine&#8217;s Clear Choice . November 2nd, 2009 Over the weekend, Dede Scozzafava, the very gay-supportive Republican candidate for the 23rd Congressional district in New York pulled out of the race. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lindoro Almaviva</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lindoro Almaviva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 01:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we have all seen it happen since 1980 and increasingly since 2000. The Republican Party has steadily radicalize and what used to be the fringes of their constituency have taken center stage and effectively hijacked the party and the platform. I think those who point out that the party is looking more and more the way it did in the 40&#039;s and 50&#039;s, specially in the south are correct. 

Unfortunately, what will happen is that those who are socially moderate within the party will refuse to move to the Democratic party for economic reasons. To be honest, I don&#039;t think they should. The same is kind of happening on the other side of the fence. The more liberal areas of the party are increasingly attacking the more conservative members and edging them out. 

Could this be the beginning or a 3 party system (4 maybe) in our history? God knows the Green and Libertarian parties have failed to get a hold in the public and the 2 party rule is getting old and tired.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we have all seen it happen since 1980 and increasingly since 2000. The Republican Party has steadily radicalize and what used to be the fringes of their constituency have taken center stage and effectively hijacked the party and the platform. I think those who point out that the party is looking more and more the way it did in the 40&#8242;s and 50&#8242;s, specially in the south are correct. </p>
<p>Unfortunately, what will happen is that those who are socially moderate within the party will refuse to move to the Democratic party for economic reasons. To be honest, I don&#8217;t think they should. The same is kind of happening on the other side of the fence. The more liberal areas of the party are increasingly attacking the more conservative members and edging them out. </p>
<p>Could this be the beginning or a 3 party system (4 maybe) in our history? God knows the Green and Libertarian parties have failed to get a hold in the public and the 2 party rule is getting old and tired.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 23:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t count on it, Timothy.  When it comes to fiscal liberals, I have no problems with targetting them for defeat.  Where the GOP is running into snags are that social liberals or moderates are caught in this fever as well.  I&#039;m well aware of the NYS Conservative Party&#039;s platform and while I applaud some of their fiscal stances could never support any of their candidates on gay rights matters.  Eh, I leave this up to the voters of NY-23.  

Now as for Virginia I&#039;m facing a conundrum.  I will not vote for Deeds or Shannon over fiscal matters but cannot vote for McDonell or Cuccinelli because of their opposition to gay rights.  Sadly there&#039;s not even a third party candidate runningt o register a protest vote.  Guess I&#039;ll leave those slots blank or write in Mickey Mouse.

I really am sick and tired or extreme Right or extreme Left in this country.  Damn I wish we had a third alternative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t count on it, Timothy.  When it comes to fiscal liberals, I have no problems with targetting them for defeat.  Where the GOP is running into snags are that social liberals or moderates are caught in this fever as well.  I&#8217;m well aware of the NYS Conservative Party&#8217;s platform and while I applaud some of their fiscal stances could never support any of their candidates on gay rights matters.  Eh, I leave this up to the voters of NY-23.  </p>
<p>Now as for Virginia I&#8217;m facing a conundrum.  I will not vote for Deeds or Shannon over fiscal matters but cannot vote for McDonell or Cuccinelli because of their opposition to gay rights.  Sadly there&#8217;s not even a third party candidate runningt o register a protest vote.  Guess I&#8217;ll leave those slots blank or write in Mickey Mouse.</p>
<p>I really am sick and tired or extreme Right or extreme Left in this country.  Damn I wish we had a third alternative.</p>
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		<title>By: AJD</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If the leadership continues in that vein, they may well be successful in turning the Republican Party into an ideologically pure, but politically irrelevant, permanently minority party.&quot;

I&#039;d like to think that will eventually be the case. The Republicans are clearly turning into the neo-Dixiecrats. But the thing is, they&#039;re still able to get enough votes in most places to do things like ban gay marriage, so I wouldn&#039;t start playing the funeral dirge just yet.

The problem isn&#039;t the GOP; it&#039;s that it&#039;s come under the domination of people who 40 years ago would be complaining about &quot;de coloreds.&quot; But at least back then, the Democrats still had a good-sized liberal wing. Right now, the GOP is almost 100% reactionary (&quot;conservative&quot; just doesn&#039;t seem adequate anymore).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If the leadership continues in that vein, they may well be successful in turning the Republican Party into an ideologically pure, but politically irrelevant, permanently minority party.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to think that will eventually be the case. The Republicans are clearly turning into the neo-Dixiecrats. But the thing is, they&#8217;re still able to get enough votes in most places to do things like ban gay marriage, so I wouldn&#8217;t start playing the funeral dirge just yet.</p>
<p>The problem isn&#8217;t the GOP; it&#8217;s that it&#8217;s come under the domination of people who 40 years ago would be complaining about &#8220;de coloreds.&#8221; But at least back then, the Democrats still had a good-sized liberal wing. Right now, the GOP is almost 100% reactionary (&#8220;conservative&#8221; just doesn&#8217;t seem adequate anymore).</p>
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