Comments on: Kalamazoo Episcopalians Step Up

By: Richard W. Fitch

Richard W. Fitch — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 23:18:17 +0000

The American Episcopalians are comfortably to left on many social issues. Just in the past few days, a new bishop was elected to the diocese of Minn. who is in a long-term gay relationship. This is in stark contrast to the World-Wide Anglican Communion where some third-world primates shunned the American Presiding Bishop because of her gender and because of her personal support (and official support) for LGBT equality both in the EC-USA and civil law. The recent ploy by the Vatican to attract conservative(reactionary) Anglicans may or may not yield large conversions, but it does give them another option. Perhaps more religious bodies will come to realize the moral imperative of supporting civil equality without the sense of endorsing what their private faith systems deem as sin.

By: TerenceWeldon

TerenceWeldon — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:54:24 +0000

There is now clear evidence that the religious left, which has always been there, is becoming more visible and outspoken. Pew research showed clearly that Catholics as a group are more supportive of gay marriage than other major religious groups, and overall support some form of same sex-unions. The same research shows that US Catholics just don’t see homosexuality as a moral issue. In Maine, the local bishop’s active support for Prop 1 has angered many local Catholics and created a backlash against him. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Kalamazoo action also backfires.

Either way, good for the Episcopalians.

By: toujoursdan

toujoursdan — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:33:09 +0000

None of these laws force people to be friends with gays against their will, but if you want to rent, hire, or provide services to the general public, it isn’t an unacceptable burden to do so without discrimination.

Coercion is part of living in any society. We all have to bend our individual wills in order to get along with each other and maintain the peace. If people don’t like it, they always have the option to withdraw from society and form a gated commune.

I am always amazed how individualism has become almost pathological nowadays.

By: Mark

Mark — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:09:15 +0000

Sorry, but you can be against anti-gay discrimination and also be against forcing people to associate with gays against their will. But I guess coercion is Christian too, right?

And yes, I support repealing ALL anti-discrimination laws that apply to private parties.