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	<title>Comments on: Carrie Prejean&#8217;s Behavior is Disgusting</title>
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		<title>By: Junk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Junk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 07:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. Hey, the hypocritical way things went down (from all sides) makes one crazy.  

2. It does illustrate that every single kid with a camera is gonna have stupid moments... it&#039;s just this one to is funny.  However, with my kids, I will drill them over and over again, dudes and dudettes, what goes on the Internet could live forever, and come back and bite ya in the bottom.  So, behave.  My spouse never listens.

3. The actions, these days, of a single person in privacy, isn&#039;t one thing or another -- it&#039;s so common as not to be worth talking about.  No, I think in light of someone who&#039;s planning to have a public career and needs to have a clean image, that&#039;s why most of us are amazed, and a few of you cheer -- that like so many in her generation, she&#039;s just another being stupid enough to record one&#039;s self... she&#039;s dumb or ignorant.  

When you give up your privacy, and make a recording... what are you thinking? You are going to watch yourself, or show your friends... therefore, one has to wonder.... are you thinking clearly, and esp. smart enough to represent the Miss America corp.

Nope, she&#039;s a dope, so ... she&#039;s out.  That&#039;s why it was a great decision.... for the contest.

Culture war, PC this, etc. if I was running the contest, I wouldn&#039;t care -- the contest is about fame, advertising, and money making, and she was too dumb to play at that level....

4. I expect anyone who goes to model will get plenty of chances to say &quot;no, I don&#039;t want to do that...&quot; and a few of them will have the character to resist the money, and the pull on them to give in.  

5. is the video a fake?  would be easy enough to make one, but I gather not... lol  Just giving that to this group... look out :)

6. Legal guesses: To not present evidence in the Discovery phase, would be ...Entrapment?, and would open things up to calls for a mistrial, and open them up to more damages to the gal.  The legal process is pretty easy.  Most of all however, the lawyers for the defendant... the contest, are charged to get it over with quickly, and save their clients money.... by ending it quickly.

7. Hey, the question was a great one, it revealed a lot about her character, as did the following events.  It illustrated to me the difference between someone who professes an opinion and someone who says this is the truth... folks with opinions are wiggling around... but the truth question gets back to... are any of us living up to the best possible people we can be?  The person we know we should and could be... 

8. I&#039;m way too tired :) Night everyone!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. Hey, the hypocritical way things went down (from all sides) makes one crazy.  </p>
<p>2. It does illustrate that every single kid with a camera is gonna have stupid moments&#8230; it&#8217;s just this one to is funny.  However, with my kids, I will drill them over and over again, dudes and dudettes, what goes on the Internet could live forever, and come back and bite ya in the bottom.  So, behave.  My spouse never listens.</p>
<p>3. The actions, these days, of a single person in privacy, isn&#8217;t one thing or another &#8212; it&#8217;s so common as not to be worth talking about.  No, I think in light of someone who&#8217;s planning to have a public career and needs to have a clean image, that&#8217;s why most of us are amazed, and a few of you cheer &#8212; that like so many in her generation, she&#8217;s just another being stupid enough to record one&#8217;s self&#8230; she&#8217;s dumb or ignorant.  </p>
<p>When you give up your privacy, and make a recording&#8230; what are you thinking? You are going to watch yourself, or show your friends&#8230; therefore, one has to wonder&#8230;. are you thinking clearly, and esp. smart enough to represent the Miss America corp.</p>
<p>Nope, she&#8217;s a dope, so &#8230; she&#8217;s out.  That&#8217;s why it was a great decision&#8230;. for the contest.</p>
<p>Culture war, PC this, etc. if I was running the contest, I wouldn&#8217;t care &#8212; the contest is about fame, advertising, and money making, and she was too dumb to play at that level&#8230;.</p>
<p>4. I expect anyone who goes to model will get plenty of chances to say &#8220;no, I don&#8217;t want to do that&#8230;&#8221; and a few of them will have the character to resist the money, and the pull on them to give in.  </p>
<p>5. is the video a fake?  would be easy enough to make one, but I gather not&#8230; lol  Just giving that to this group&#8230; look out :)</p>
<p>6. Legal guesses: To not present evidence in the Discovery phase, would be &#8230;Entrapment?, and would open things up to calls for a mistrial, and open them up to more damages to the gal.  The legal process is pretty easy.  Most of all however, the lawyers for the defendant&#8230; the contest, are charged to get it over with quickly, and save their clients money&#8230;. by ending it quickly.</p>
<p>7. Hey, the question was a great one, it revealed a lot about her character, as did the following events.  It illustrated to me the difference between someone who professes an opinion and someone who says this is the truth&#8230; folks with opinions are wiggling around&#8230; but the truth question gets back to&#8230; are any of us living up to the best possible people we can be?  The person we know we should and could be&#8230; </p>
<p>8. I&#8217;m way too tired :) Night everyone!</p>
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		<title>By: Richard W. Fitch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard W. Fitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 04:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sure of the innuendo, but TMZ did throw in &quot;caught red-handed&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure of the innuendo, but TMZ did throw in &#8220;caught red-handed&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Candace</title>
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		<dc:creator>Candace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 03:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THERE IS NO INDICATION WHATSOEVER THAT CARRIE WAS MENSTRUATING.


Let&#039;s note that whether carrie was mestruating in the video or not, my post was in response to those who think sexual activity during &quot;womyn&#039;s moontime&quot; is a WONDERFUL thing, bucause it&#039;s NATURAL.  Yeah, and so is vomiting, but I find myself similarly lacking in sexusal arousal to it too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THERE IS NO INDICATION WHATSOEVER THAT CARRIE WAS MENSTRUATING.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s note that whether carrie was mestruating in the video or not, my post was in response to those who think sexual activity during &#8220;womyn&#8217;s moontime&#8221; is a WONDERFUL thing, bucause it&#8217;s NATURAL.  Yeah, and so is vomiting, but I find myself similarly lacking in sexusal arousal to it too.</p>
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		<title>By: Priya Lynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Priya Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 22:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard, that&#039;s the one I was referring to.</description>
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		<title>By: Richard Rush</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Rush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 22:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Priya Lynn&#039;s comment reminded me of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/09/20/14758&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this previous BTB post&lt;/a&gt; citing a religious right winger proclaiming that &quot;&lt;strong&gt;all pornography is homosexual pornography&lt;/strong&gt;.&quot; Ergo, Carrie&#039;s video is gay porn. So if the video becomes available commercially, does it mean that straight men viewing it may become gay? Or does it mean that the main market for the video would be gay men and/or lesbians? It&#039;s all so confusing.

And incidentally, if Carrie loses her position as a Godly values spokesperson, and she wants continued public attention while earning some serious money, her best opportunity is probably the adult film industry - especially if she is willing to do lesbian scenes, for which there is a big market among straight men.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Priya Lynn&#8217;s comment reminded me of <a href="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/09/20/14758" rel="nofollow" class="articleLink">this previous BTB post</a> citing a religious right winger proclaiming that &#8220;<strong>all pornography is homosexual pornography</strong>.&#8221; Ergo, Carrie&#8217;s video is gay porn. So if the video becomes available commercially, does it mean that straight men viewing it may become gay? Or does it mean that the main market for the video would be gay men and/or lesbians? It&#8217;s all so confusing.</p>
<p>And incidentally, if Carrie loses her position as a Godly values spokesperson, and she wants continued public attention while earning some serious money, her best opportunity is probably the adult film industry &#8211; especially if she is willing to do lesbian scenes, for which there is a big market among straight men.</p>
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		<title>By: Priya Lynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Priya Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:19:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to a religious right winger, masturbation is a gay sexual act.  Wonder when they&#039;re going to come down on Carrie for her &quot;lesbianism&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to a religious right winger, masturbation is a gay sexual act.  Wonder when they&#8217;re going to come down on Carrie for her &#8220;lesbianism&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben in Oakland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben in Oakland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Miss CarriePornia.

Spread the word.

And only the word...please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Miss CarriePornia.</p>
<p>Spread the word.</p>
<p>And only the word&#8230;please.</p>
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		<title>By: Gentle Lamb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gentle Lamb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 11:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess that as long as it is straight it is ok and abide by her christian upbringing. 

At last she is disgusted about herself... 

Where can we get the video?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess that as long as it is straight it is ok and abide by her christian upbringing. </p>
<p>At last she is disgusted about herself&#8230; </p>
<p>Where can we get the video?</p>
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		<title>By: Alex H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 09:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s nothing wrong with masturbation, female or male or otherwise. 

I think the whole point of calling out the &quot;disgusting&quot; act--Prajean&#039;s words not mine--is to show the rampant hypocrisy that the right-wing moralists continue to exemplify.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s nothing wrong with masturbation, female or male or otherwise. </p>
<p>I think the whole point of calling out the &#8220;disgusting&#8221; act&#8211;Prajean&#8217;s words not mine&#8211;is to show the rampant hypocrisy that the right-wing moralists continue to exemplify.</p>
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		<title>By: GreenEyedLilo</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreenEyedLilo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 04:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For me, the truly disgusting thing isn&#039;t what she was or wasn&#039;t doing on that video, or what moonphase she was in while she did it.  It&#039;s the fact that she capitalized on her notoriety to deny others the right to make their own choices.  It&#039;s the fact that she is willing to use the force of civil law to make others live by her beliefs, when she can&#039;t even manage to bring her own mean-spirited self morally up to code by her own definition.  

That said, just because of who it is, I kinda wish the treatment on &quot;Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind&quot; actually existed.  (Now, if it was the actress who plays Anna on the &quot;V&quot; remake...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me, the truly disgusting thing isn&#8217;t what she was or wasn&#8217;t doing on that video, or what moonphase she was in while she did it.  It&#8217;s the fact that she capitalized on her notoriety to deny others the right to make their own choices.  It&#8217;s the fact that she is willing to use the force of civil law to make others live by her beliefs, when she can&#8217;t even manage to bring her own mean-spirited self morally up to code by her own definition.  </p>
<p>That said, just because of who it is, I kinda wish the treatment on &#8220;Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind&#8221; actually existed.  (Now, if it was the actress who plays Anna on the &#8220;V&#8221; remake&#8230;)</p>
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