Comments on: Exodus Sends Letter To Ugandan President

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[...] of his own organization’s prevarications, half-hearted defenses, and finally — finally! — a letter. Even after all that, it wasn’t until just this past Tuesday that he decided that maybe it was [...]

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By: Michael Bussee

Michael Bussee — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 23:55:39 +0000

Don Schmierer was added as one of the signers: http://blog.exodusinternational.org/2009/12/01/don-schmierer-added-to-letter-opposing-ugandan-anti-homosexuality-bill/
Serious mistakes were made. We are working together towards a solution.

I believe that Exodus’s statements and Don’s signature on the letter are very positive developments towards correcting those errors.

I am concerned that Stepehen Langa apparently dismissed the letter as a fake. Can something be done to reassure him that it is real?

By: Timothy Kincaid

Timothy Kincaid — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:02:01 +0000

Alan,

I accept your apology. I too am glad that we are now on the same page on this issue. Let’s hope that the future will find many other areas in which we can agree.

Timothy

By: Alan Chambers

Alan Chambers — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:40:03 +0000

Timothy,

I am sorry.

Glad I/we can help now.

Alan

By: Lynn David

Lynn David — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 05:19:56 +0000

In the case of stupidity then, Michael, Exodus should get out of the business.

But where I come from the good old boys have a different kind of aphorism for the kind of statement Alan Chambers gave above: ‘give the guy enough rope and he’ll hang himself with it.‘

By: Ken in Riverside

Ken in Riverside — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 04:04:09 +0000

Isn’t legislation like the kind that proposed in Uganda the logical progression of the whole gay-is-a-choice-and-is-dangerous-to-society false narrative?

By: Michael Bussee

Michael Bussee — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 03:36:14 +0000

I think it’s possible that Exodus did not firmly grasp what was going on, in spite of the warnings. Now, perhaps they do.

“Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.” — Hanlon’s Razor

By: Christopher™

Christopher™ — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 02:01:00 +0000

“I also believe you when you say that you did not understand Scott Lively’s intentions.”

PLEASE tell me that you’re not this gullible, Timothy.

By: Timothy Kincaid

Timothy Kincaid — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:37:04 +0000

Alan,

Thank you very much for your response. I could have been very appreciative if you had been as blunt in both your website statement and in your letter.

I take you at your word that you will throw the weight of your organization against this bill. And I welcome the opportunity to work in concert for the same goal.

I also believe you when you say that you did not understand Scott Lively’s intentions.

But, Alan, you know why I am frustrated and why I am so demanding that Exodus speak clearly on this matter. Before Don went to Uganda, you and I corresponded about the conference and you chose to ignore and downplay my concerns.

But that is in the past. As are the weakly worded letter and the inadequate and perhaps offensive web comment.

I truly hope that your forcefulness which you used here can be also expressed in a non-gay setting. I hope that when speaking with conservatives, you don’t ignore or dismiss the plight of gay men and women in Uganda, choosing only to lament the loss of religious rights. I hope that Exodus’ opposition to the bill will be expressed in terms that are not conditionally tied to the church’s counseling efforts.

I welcome you to the stand against Ugandan human rights violations. I hope that this is but the first of many areas in which we can find common cause.