Comments on: Catholic Report: Homosexuality Not a Factor In Clerical Sex Scandals

By: Fg68at

Fg68at — Sat, 08 Jan 2011 02:54:51 +0000

“won’t be completed until the end of next year”

This is now. It is completed?

By: Politicalguineapig

Politicalguineapig — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 01:49:46 +0000

Okay, I’ve been thinking about it for a bit and here’s what I got.
Rape is about power and access, and occasionally sexual attraction.
Pedophilia is the act of raping a child of either gender. So therefore, pedophilia can be understood as a power play with one-sided sexual attraction.

By: Ben in Oakland

Ben in Oakland — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:53:16 +0000

Nothing will ever force them to look at the real causes. I don’t think the church has much interest in truth, only The Truth, becuase only the latter has monetary and political rewards.

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By: Swampfox

Swampfox — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 02:26:03 +0000

I guess that the Vatican will now stop trying to weed out gays from becoming clergy?

By: TerenceWeldon

TerenceWeldon — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:40:45 +0000

John:

The earlier John Jay report did not in fact claim that the perpetrators were gay. That was the spin put on it by the bishops, to the finding that most of the complaints investigated (by the bishops themselves)came from boys. But there were good reasons why girls simply did not bother to report – and note that a significant proportion of the complaints were simply not investigated, especially in some specific dioceses.

This report is not a new study, but the second stage of the same research, designed s an update. One of the other findings was that “nothing has changed” since the first report. This clearly implies that if gay priests are not to blame now, they were not to blame then – as all independent observers and researchers have always concluded.

Blaming “homosexuals” by the bishops has always been a smokescreen designed to deflect attention away from the true culprit: the institutional structure and systems of the church itself.

This is why, as I have argued elsewhere, it is essential that this new report be discussed and disseminated as widely as we can – to blow that smokescreen clear away, forcing them finally to look at those real causes.

By: Craig L. Adams

Craig L. Adams — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:35:42 +0000

Ha! They should have given you the 2 million, Jim.

By: Ephilei

Ephilei — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:00:17 +0000

“Pedophilia is more about power and getting off than anything else.”

I don’t believe that is true. Source?

By: Politicalguineapig

Politicalguineapig — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:41:24 +0000

Duh. Pedophilia is more about power and getting off than anything else. Don’t they have any psychiatrists or psychologists involved in the church that they could’ve consulted?

By: TerenceWeldon

TerenceWeldon — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:13:43 +0000

There is nothing remarkable in this report – similar reports have been made by independent observers for years. Still, I think this particular report is of major importance, because it was prepared for the bishops themselves.

Left to themselves, I suspect they will simply ignore it, or even to distort the findings, as Archbishop Thomasi did with a previous report on the same subject by the same John Jay College. We must not allow this.

The report must be publicly discussed and disseminated, They won’t do it themselves – it is up to us to do it for them

See http://queeringthechurch.wordpress.com/2009/11/18/fig-leaves-gerasene-swine-and-carpets-bishops-and-clerical-sexual-abuse/