Comments on: Anti-gay Lutheran pastor heads his own church-split http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/11/24/16904 News, analysis and fact-checking of anti-gay rhetoric Tue, 21 May 2013 11:50:15 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: Bill http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/11/24/16904/comment-page-1#comment-60735 Bill Tue, 26 Jan 2010 02:31:50 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=16904#comment-60735 As a member of First Lutheran I can say that we are better off without Nate - he was very ineffective as a pastor and if you weren't with him and/or didn't support his views you were against him. When he gave his ultimatum during a sermon that if we as a church body failed to vote to leave the ELCA he would leave us that was the final straw - had he stayed many of us would have left. True leaders don't quit when the going gets tough - I could not leave my men in a fire fight because I didn't agree with how the commander was fighting the battle. Nate is a quitter plain and simple and just like other churches he has been at he has left ours in disarray. As a member of First Lutheran I can say that we are better off without Nate – he was very ineffective as a pastor and if you weren’t with him and/or didn’t support his views you were against him. When he gave his ultimatum during a sermon that if we as a church body failed to vote to leave the ELCA he would leave us that was the final straw – had he stayed many of us would have left. True leaders don’t quit when the going gets tough – I could not leave my men in a fire fight because I didn’t agree with how the commander was fighting the battle. Nate is a quitter plain and simple and just like other churches he has been at he has left ours in disarray.

]]> By: John http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/11/24/16904/comment-page-1#comment-59734 John Tue, 12 Jan 2010 17:52:38 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=16904#comment-59734 How many times in the article did the author point out that the pastor could do whatever he wanted? Carter, I doubt this is "the most disgusting article (you) have ever read," since nowhere in the article is there any limit on this homophobic bigot's speech. This victim worship from right wing homophobes is getting old and tiresome. Perhaps a group huddle and new strategy is in order. How many times in the article did the author point out that the pastor could do whatever he wanted?

Carter, I doubt this is “the most disgusting article (you) have ever read,” since nowhere in the article is there any limit on this homophobic bigot’s speech.

This victim worship from right wing homophobes is getting old and tiresome. Perhaps a group huddle and new strategy is in order.

]]> By: Priya Lynn http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/11/24/16904/comment-page-1#comment-59732 Priya Lynn Tue, 12 Jan 2010 17:30:03 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=16904#comment-59732 Get off it Carter, no one is limiting his free speech, he's free to say whatever he wants but no one is entitled to speech free from criticism. Get off it Carter, no one is limiting his free speech, he’s free to say whatever he wants but no one is entitled to speech free from criticism.

]]> By: Carter http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/11/24/16904/comment-page-1#comment-59727 Carter Tue, 12 Jan 2010 17:16:19 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=16904#comment-59727 This is simply the most distgusting article I have ever read. I graduated a few years after Nate, and am happy to tell you that he lives by his concience, not by agenda. He is hardly "antigay". We have a mutual friend from high school that is gay, and I can confirm that this gentleman truely is a friend to Nate. Obviously Nate just feels that non-celibate gay clergy is against God's Word and he is allowed to take that belief, as I suspect he is somewhat better versed in The Word than the average reader of this column. How typical is it for a left wing media source to limit his free speech, much less limit the speech of a Pastor to his flock. This is simply the most distgusting article I have ever read. I graduated a few years after Nate, and am happy to tell you that he lives by his concience, not by agenda. He is hardly “antigay”. We have a mutual friend from high school that is gay, and I can confirm that this gentleman truely is a friend to Nate. Obviously Nate just feels that non-celibate gay clergy is against God’s Word and he is allowed to take that belief, as I suspect he is somewhat better versed in The Word than the average reader of this column. How typical is it for a left wing media source to limit his free speech, much less limit the speech of a Pastor to his flock.

]]> By: Lindoro Almaviva http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/11/24/16904/comment-page-1#comment-55321 Lindoro Almaviva Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:03:50 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=16904#comment-55321 This kind of behavior is so common in protestant churches in Puerto Rico I was baffled it actually made the news here. This kind of behavior is so common in protestant churches in Puerto Rico I was baffled it actually made the news here.

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