Comments on: Uganda Responds To International Furor Over “Kill Gays” Bill http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/12/03/17181 News, analysis and fact-checking of anti-gay rhetoric Mon, 20 May 2013 21:06:20 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: Movement Behind Uganda’s "Kill the Gays" Bill Organizing in Newark | Monitoring a Growing Dominionist Movement http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/12/03/17181/comment-page-1#comment-105485 Movement Behind Uganda’s "Kill the Gays" Bill Organizing in Newark | Monitoring a Growing Dominionist Movement Tue, 30 Aug 2011 21:03:44 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=17181#comment-105485 [...] has been attended by Ugandan parliament member David Bahati – who drafted and introduced the Anti–Homosexuality Bill, now before Uganda’s parliament, which would mandate the execution of HIV positive Ugandan [...] [...] has been attended by Ugandan parliament member David Bahati – who drafted and introduced the Anti–Homosexuality Bill, now before Uganda’s parliament, which would mandate the execution of HIV positive Ugandan [...]

]]> By: Lynn David http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/12/03/17181/comment-page-1#comment-56044 Lynn David Sat, 05 Dec 2009 06:21:02 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=17181#comment-56044 Yeah, Richard, the Chinese are after any natural resources they can get their hands on to fuel their industry. Since the US doesn't seem to have any industry anymore..... Yeah, Richard, the Chinese are after any natural resources they can get their hands on to fuel their industry. Since the US doesn’t seem to have any industry anymore…..

]]> By: Unblogged Bits for Friday, 04 December 2009 | ***Dave Does the Blog http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/12/03/17181/comment-page-1#comment-56017 Unblogged Bits for Friday, 04 December 2009 | ***Dave Does the Blog Sat, 05 Dec 2009 00:02:34 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=17181#comment-56017 [...] Box Turtle Bulletin » Uganda Responds To International Furor Over “Kill Gays” Bill – “It is so unfair that all those people giving us aid money are threatening to stop doing so just because we plan on executing ‘aggravating’ gays. Colonialists!” SHARETHIS.addEntry({ title: "Unblogged Bits for Friday, 04 December 2009", url: "http://hill-kleerup.org/blog/2009/12/04/unblogged-bits-for-friday-04-december-2009.html" });  Print Cancel reply [...] [...] Box Turtle Bulletin » Uganda Responds To International Furor Over “Kill Gays” Bill – “It is so unfair that all those people giving us aid money are threatening to stop doing so just because we plan on executing ‘aggravating’ gays. Colonialists!” SHARETHIS.addEntry({ title: "Unblogged Bits for Friday, 04 December 2009", url: "http://hill-kleerup.org/blog/2009/12/04/unblogged-bits-for-friday-04-december-2009.html" });  Print Cancel reply [...]

]]> By: Richard W. Fitch http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/12/03/17181/comment-page-1#comment-55954 Richard W. Fitch Fri, 04 Dec 2009 16:18:25 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=17181#comment-55954 @Lynn David: <a href="//allafrica.com/stories/200911090007.html”" rel="nofollow"> Here is the article at allAfrica.com </a> <blockquote> 8-November-2009 Kampala — Chinese premier Wen Jiabao has offered Africa $10b in concessional loans over the next three years along with a range of other measures aimed at strengthening African-Chinese ties. The aid offer, announced yesterday at a China-Africa summit in Egypt, is double that unveiled by President Hu Jintao at the last summit in Beijing in 2006. </blockquote> More details in full article @Lynn David:

Here is the article at allAfrica.com

8-November-2009
Kampala — Chinese premier Wen Jiabao has offered Africa $10b in concessional loans over the next three years along with a range of other measures aimed at strengthening African-Chinese ties.

The aid offer, announced yesterday at a China-Africa summit in Egypt, is double that unveiled by President Hu Jintao at the last summit in Beijing in 2006.

More details in full article

]]> By: darkmoonman http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/12/03/17181/comment-page-1#comment-55941 darkmoonman Fri, 04 Dec 2009 15:38:27 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=17181#comment-55941 "If one chooses to withdraw their aid, they are free because Ugandans do not want to engage in anal sex. We do not care." Ignoring the ignorant gay=anal-sex, we should feel no compunction over withdrawing all funds (even if the PRC promise their own) and using a portion thereof to help rescue and relocate gays who live in Uganda. “If one chooses to withdraw their aid, they are free because Ugandans do not want to engage in anal sex. We do not care.”

Ignoring the ignorant gay=anal-sex, we should feel no compunction over withdrawing all funds (even if the PRC promise their own) and using a portion thereof to help rescue and relocate gays who live in Uganda.

]]> By: Donnchadh http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/12/03/17181/comment-page-1#comment-55920 Donnchadh Fri, 04 Dec 2009 13:12:19 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=17181#comment-55920 Candace, the comment on cannibalism was unwarranted because: 1) It is also illegal in the country, and the LRA is fought against all the time. Plenty of criticism could be made at the government's war conduct, but it certainly does not turn a blind eye to all these crimes. The problem is that it is putting homosexuality on a par with them. 2) It feeds directly into the effort of the government to portray itself as threatened by Western imperialists. Cannibalism was the go-to accusation of savagery used to justify colonialism. It's like accusing Jews of controlling finance. Candace, the comment on cannibalism was unwarranted because:
1) It is also illegal in the country, and the LRA is fought against all the time. Plenty of criticism could be made at the government’s war conduct, but it certainly does not turn a blind eye to all these crimes. The problem is that it is putting homosexuality on a par with them.
2) It feeds directly into the effort of the government to portray itself as threatened by Western imperialists. Cannibalism was the go-to accusation of savagery used to justify colonialism. It’s like accusing Jews of controlling finance.

]]> By: Lynn David http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/12/03/17181/comment-page-1#comment-55891 Lynn David Fri, 04 Dec 2009 08:32:50 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=17181#comment-55891 <blockquote>The govt of Uganda would gladly see ALL Western/European/American influence withdrawn. The govt of China has already promised a billion$$$ in aid.</blockquote> If that is true, Richard, then I bet we see Museveni march into the Congo again to try to takeover some of the mineral wealth there.

The govt of Uganda would gladly see ALL Western/European/American influence withdrawn. The govt of China has already promised a billion$$$ in aid.

If that is true, Richard, then I bet we see Museveni march into the Congo again to try to takeover some of the mineral wealth there.

]]> By: Lynn David http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/12/03/17181/comment-page-1#comment-55890 Lynn David Fri, 04 Dec 2009 08:30:00 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=17181#comment-55890 And speaking <a href="http://www.monitor.co.ug/artman/publish/sun_news/Sodomised_expelled_from_school_83074.shtml" rel="nofollow">of not having a law concerning abuse boys</a>: <blockquote>Mr Herman Kalule Kirumira, the area youth councillor appeared in Entebbe court early this week on charges of molesting the pupil but hearing of the case was pushed to May 4, reportedly to allow the presiding magistrate Steven Waidubba attend a workshop. <strong>The suspect has been charged with having unlawful carnal knowledge of a minor against the order of nature, an offence for which under the Ugandan law, one could face life imprisonment if convicted by court</strong>.</blockquote> Who said that boy's weren't protected under the law? Oh yeah... Langa, Ssempa, and many others. The bill is superfluous, except to call things homosexuality which aren't, tie it together with homosexuality, and then outlaw any advocacy. The stuff about making counselors, priests, etc. out as criminals is simply to radicialize the population further against homosexuality and help create the pogrom they haven't yet been able to produce. And speaking of not having a law concerning abuse boys:

Mr Herman Kalule Kirumira, the area youth councillor appeared in Entebbe court early this week on charges of molesting the pupil but hearing of the case was pushed to May 4, reportedly to allow the presiding magistrate Steven Waidubba attend a workshop. The suspect has been charged with having unlawful carnal knowledge of a minor against the order of nature, an offence for which under the Ugandan law, one could face life imprisonment if convicted by court.

Who said that boy’s weren’t protected under the law? Oh yeah… Langa, Ssempa, and many others. The bill is superfluous, except to call things homosexuality which aren’t, tie it together with homosexuality, and then outlaw any advocacy. The stuff about making counselors, priests, etc. out as criminals is simply to radicialize the population further against homosexuality and help create the pogrom they haven’t yet been able to produce.

]]> By: Richard W. Fitch http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/12/03/17181/comment-page-1#comment-55840 Richard W. Fitch Fri, 04 Dec 2009 02:47:03 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=17181#comment-55840 The govt of Uganda would gladly see ALL Western/European/American influence withdrawn. The govt of China has already promised a billion$$$ in aid. The govt of Uganda would gladly see ALL Western/European/American influence withdrawn. The govt of China has already promised a billion$$$ in aid.

]]> By: Mykelb http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/12/03/17181/comment-page-1#comment-55837 Mykelb Fri, 04 Dec 2009 01:26:51 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=17181#comment-55837 The countries of western civilization should pull all support and aide from Uganda and offer sanctuary for any lgbt person capable of leaving Uganda. We need a list of Ugandan exports so that we are not financially supporting the genocide that is surely to begin in Uganda. The countries of western civilization should pull all support and aide from Uganda and offer sanctuary for any lgbt person capable of leaving Uganda. We need a list of Ugandan exports so that we are not financially supporting the genocide that is surely to begin in Uganda.

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