Comments on: No Prop 8 insider documents for Olson/Boies http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/12/04/17374 News, analysis and fact-checking of anti-gay rhetoric Thu, 23 May 2013 17:27:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: Burr http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/12/04/17374/comment-page-1#comment-56078 Burr Sat, 05 Dec 2009 18:22:49 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=17374#comment-56078 And it's just not the correct way at all. It really isn't an issue for the electorate or the legislative branch at all, though it's nice when it goes our way. What's happening is unconstitutional and it needs to be understood that way so that another simple majority vote can't take it back. And it’s just not the correct way at all. It really isn’t an issue for the electorate or the legislative branch at all, though it’s nice when it goes our way. What’s happening is unconstitutional and it needs to be understood that way so that another simple majority vote can’t take it back.

]]> By: ---- http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/12/04/17374/comment-page-1#comment-56067 ---- Sat, 05 Dec 2009 16:42:30 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=17374#comment-56067 "I think this suit is a bad idea. Just wait a few years and bring up the vote again. And if we lose then a few years after. It’s what was done to us over and over again so fair is fair. Look at the numbers. Time is on our side. And it will be far better for us if we gain rights with a majority vote either in the legislature or at the ballot box than from a court. It takes away the whole “unelected judges” argument." That's not how blacks and women got their rights. You cannot count for people to change their minds. It would take decades for a mejority of Americans to finally side with marriage equality. We cannot wait that long. “I think this suit is a bad idea. Just wait a few years and bring up the vote again. And if we lose then a few years after. It’s what was done to us over and over again so fair is fair. Look at the numbers. Time is on our side. And it will be far better for us if we gain rights with a majority vote either in the legislature or at the ballot box than from a court. It takes away the whole “unelected judges” argument.”

That’s not how blacks and women got their rights. You cannot count for people to change their minds. It would take decades for a mejority of Americans to finally side with marriage equality. We cannot wait that long.

]]> By: Houndentenor http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/12/04/17374/comment-page-1#comment-56064 Houndentenor Sat, 05 Dec 2009 16:04:29 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=17374#comment-56064 I think there's a "shoe on the other foot argument". I'm pretty sure no political campaign would want its internal communications made private. Everyone says and types things that taken out of context (or even in context when written while in a bad mood) would make them look bad. I think this suit is a bad idea. Just wait a few years and bring up the vote again. And if we lose then a few years after. It's what was done to us over and over again so fair is fair. Look at the numbers. Time is on our side. And it will be far better for us if we gain rights with a majority vote either in the legislature or at the ballot box than from a court. It takes away the whole "unelected judges" argument. I think there’s a “shoe on the other foot argument”. I’m pretty sure no political campaign would want its internal communications made private. Everyone says and types things that taken out of context (or even in context when written while in a bad mood) would make them look bad.

I think this suit is a bad idea. Just wait a few years and bring up the vote again. And if we lose then a few years after. It’s what was done to us over and over again so fair is fair. Look at the numbers. Time is on our side. And it will be far better for us if we gain rights with a majority vote either in the legislature or at the ballot box than from a court. It takes away the whole “unelected judges” argument.

]]> By: Ryan http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/12/04/17374/comment-page-1#comment-56048 Ryan Sat, 05 Dec 2009 09:06:39 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=17374#comment-56048 Have to say, I agree with the court on this one. You can't just demand to see other people's private communications because you don't like them. Animus is not a crime. It's also, in this case, self-evident. Olsen should be able to prove his case without taking away anyone's civil rights. And yes, I'm aware of the irony of that statement. Have to say, I agree with the court on this one. You can’t just demand to see other people’s private communications because you don’t like them. Animus is not a crime. It’s also, in this case, self-evident. Olsen should be able to prove his case without taking away anyone’s civil rights. And yes, I’m aware of the irony of that statement.

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