Comments on: Now THAT’S Advocacy! http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/12/05/17398 News, analysis and fact-checking of anti-gay rhetoric Fri, 24 May 2013 18:17:27 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: Nick http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/12/05/17398/comment-page-1#comment-56239 Nick Mon, 07 Dec 2009 09:37:35 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=17398#comment-56239 When the fundies make these "REPENT" lists I always count to see how many I am and try to go for the high score. I got 9 on this one. When the fundies make these “REPENT” lists I always count to see how many I am and try to go for the high score. I got 9 on this one.

]]> By: Timothy Kincaid http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/12/05/17398/comment-page-1#comment-56202 Timothy Kincaid Sun, 06 Dec 2009 22:28:19 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=17398#comment-56202 <blockquote> I know a GOOD Christian when I see one. I know a GOOD Jew, Muslim, Buddhist and so on, when I meet one. These are the folks who fight injustice, poverty, help the diseased and sometimes just fix a flat or give piano lessons for free.</blockquote> Perhaps that is what Jesus meant when he said: <blockquote>"A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another."</blockquote> I'm not adequately familiar with the holy texts of Jews, Muslims, and Buddhists, but I suspect you'd find something similar there. Oh, and for those who were wondering, there is no accompanying verse of Jesus saying "all men will know you are my disciples if you hate the sin".

I know a GOOD Christian when I see one. I know a GOOD Jew, Muslim, Buddhist and so on, when I meet one.

These are the folks who fight injustice, poverty, help the diseased and sometimes just fix a flat or give piano lessons for free.

Perhaps that is what Jesus meant when he said:

“A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.”

I’m not adequately familiar with the holy texts of Jews, Muslims, and Buddhists, but I suspect you’d find something similar there.

Oh, and for those who were wondering, there is no accompanying verse of Jesus saying “all men will know you are my disciples if you hate the sin”.

]]> By: Robert in San Diego http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/12/05/17398/comment-page-1#comment-56170 Robert in San Diego Sun, 06 Dec 2009 17:49:19 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=17398#comment-56170 He was hoping to be a martyr for the recent hate crimes legislation since they all think that it silences their right to free hate speech. He was hoping to be a martyr for the recent hate crimes legislation since they all think that it silences their right to free hate speech.

]]> By: John http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/12/05/17398/comment-page-1#comment-56112 John Sun, 06 Dec 2009 01:12:01 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=17398#comment-56112 This exact same guy was at my college just two months ago. Apparently he goes around doing this a lot. This exact same guy was at my college just two months ago. Apparently he goes around doing this a lot.

]]> By: Burr http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/12/05/17398/comment-page-1#comment-56105 Burr Sat, 05 Dec 2009 22:07:45 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=17398#comment-56105 <blockquote> Were that same guy, put out a sign that said: Free hugs, God is love. That would say a lot more to make a better world than his current method.</blockquote> It'd also get a LOT more converts, which I thought was the point? Nah his point was just to be a prick, and his method only proves it.

Were that same guy, put out a sign that said: Free hugs, God is love.

That would say a lot more to make a better world than his current method.

It’d also get a LOT more converts, which I thought was the point?

Nah his point was just to be a prick, and his method only proves it.

]]> By: KZ http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/12/05/17398/comment-page-1#comment-56099 KZ Sat, 05 Dec 2009 20:42:21 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=17398#comment-56099 Homosexuals and Sodomites are mentioned on his sign. I thought the terms were one in the same to anti-gays. Homosexuals and Sodomites are mentioned on his sign. I thought the terms were one in the same to anti-gays.

]]> By: Richard W. Fitch http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/12/05/17398/comment-page-1#comment-56097 Richard W. Fitch Sat, 05 Dec 2009 20:33:05 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=17398#comment-56097 Regan's comments prompt me to mention a recent interview clip I saw with the incredible Karen Armstrong. I am a bit vague on specifics but the gist was: In religion, and Christianity in particular, we have come to assert that orthodoxy is more important than orthopraxy; that is, what we *believe* is more important than what we *do*. And to quote an ancient source: "Faith without works is dead". Regan’s comments prompt me to mention a recent interview clip I saw with the incredible Karen Armstrong. I am a bit vague on specifics but the gist was: In religion, and Christianity in particular, we have come to assert that orthodoxy is more important than orthopraxy; that is, what we *believe* is more important than what we *do*. And to quote an ancient source: “Faith without works is dead”.

]]> By: Regan DuCasse http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/12/05/17398/comment-page-1#comment-56094 Regan DuCasse Sat, 05 Dec 2009 20:19:40 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=17398#comment-56094 Doesn't this guy know that the most Christian thing he can do is give to charity, extend a gesture of kindness like helping someone carry a heavy load or shovel their walks or rake leaves? Maybe in the Starbucks line, pay for the coffees of everyone else behind him? Or maybe even offer to read to the blind or give to a scholarship fund? Rants and raves and criticism and general diarrhea of the face won't cut it. You have to DO, not talk. It's sort of like when I ask those who are anti gay in particular and still believe HIV/AIDS is a gay disease: did you donate any money to AIDS research or preventative education? Did you volunteer for any support for people living with AIDS? Did you even pray that those committed to fighting AIDS through medical research and development will FIND A CURE OR VACCINE? Or do you just bad mouth people with the disease, but do nothing to help actually FIGHT it? I know a GOOD Christian when I see one. I know a GOOD Jew, Muslim, Buddhist and so on, when I meet one. These are the folks who fight injustice, poverty, help the diseased and sometimes just fix a flat or give piano lessons for free. Just about anything but preach and point out the faults they think everyone else has. Were that same guy, put out a sign that said: Free hugs, God is love. That would say a lot more to make a better world than his current method. Can I get a witness? Doesn’t this guy know that the most Christian thing he can do is give to charity, extend a gesture of kindness like helping someone carry a heavy load or shovel their walks or rake leaves?

Maybe in the Starbucks line, pay for the coffees of everyone else behind him? Or maybe even offer to read to the blind or give to a scholarship fund?

Rants and raves and criticism and general diarrhea of the face won’t cut it.
You have to DO, not talk.

It’s sort of like when I ask those who are anti gay in particular and still believe HIV/AIDS is a gay disease: did you donate any money to AIDS research or preventative education?
Did you volunteer for any support for people living with AIDS?
Did you even pray that those committed to fighting AIDS through medical research and development will FIND A CURE OR VACCINE?
Or do you just bad mouth people with the disease, but do nothing to help actually FIGHT it?

I know a GOOD Christian when I see one. I know a GOOD Jew, Muslim, Buddhist and so on, when I meet one.

These are the folks who fight injustice, poverty, help the diseased and sometimes just fix a flat or give piano lessons for free.

Just about anything but preach and point out the faults they think everyone else has.

Were that same guy, put out a sign that said: Free hugs, God is love.

That would say a lot more to make a better world than his current method.

Can I get a witness?

]]> By: Lindoro Almaviva http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/12/05/17398/comment-page-1#comment-56088 Lindoro Almaviva Sat, 05 Dec 2009 19:28:13 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=17398#comment-56088 Love that story. I have myself gone on to a deeper and longer kiss in public just to make a point. Love that story. I have myself gone on to a deeper and longer kiss in public just to make a point.

]]> By: Burr http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/12/05/17398/comment-page-1#comment-56087 Burr Sat, 05 Dec 2009 19:09:38 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=17398#comment-56087 I'm not sure it's worth the time antagonizing a mentally-handicapped former drug dealer. But oh well.. I’m not sure it’s worth the time antagonizing a mentally-handicapped former drug dealer. But oh well..

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