Comments on: Truly Friends, indeed http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/12/07/17509 News, analysis and fact-checking of anti-gay rhetoric Sat, 25 May 2013 21:17:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: Nat http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/12/07/17509/comment-page-1#comment-56823 Nat Sat, 12 Dec 2009 16:05:53 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=17509#comment-56823 What Elise says is the case. We will continue to marry Friends of any gender under the care of our meeting (including the traditional-but-not-LEGALLY-binding Quaker marriage certificate, signed by all present at the ceremony), and if they choose to legalize their marriage through a civil ceremony, we have no objection to their protecting their family in this way. But the couple has to do that part themselves separately. You can see the actual minute we approved at http://www.tcfm.org/article/minute-for-marriage-equality. Nat Case Twin Cities Friends Meeting What Elise says is the case. We will continue to marry Friends of any gender under the care of our meeting (including the traditional-but-not-LEGALLY-binding Quaker marriage certificate, signed by all present at the ceremony), and if they choose to legalize their marriage through a civil ceremony, we have no objection to their protecting their family in this way. But the couple has to do that part themselves separately.

You can see the actual minute we approved at http://www.tcfm.org/article/minute-for-marriage-equality.

Nat Case
Twin Cities Friends Meeting

]]> By: Elise http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/12/07/17509/comment-page-1#comment-56448 Elise Wed, 09 Dec 2009 04:49:51 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=17509#comment-56448 Probably because there are no marriage certificates for same sex couples, what with the ban on them and all. Probably because there are no marriage certificates for same sex couples, what with the ban on them and all.

]]> By: Pennarin http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/12/07/17509/comment-page-1#comment-56424 Pennarin Tue, 08 Dec 2009 22:29:16 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=17509#comment-56424 @tavdy79: "To treat others equally, we’re left with only one choice: to perform no marriages at all." Sounds good and proper, except the news item mentions they will stop signing marriage certificates for opposite-sex couples...only. I'd like to see happening what tavdy79 mentions, though. @tavdy79: “To treat others equally, we’re left with only one choice: to perform no marriages at all.”
Sounds good and proper, except the news item mentions they will stop signing marriage certificates for opposite-sex couples…only.
I’d like to see happening what tavdy79 mentions, though.

]]> By: tavdy79 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/12/07/17509/comment-page-1#comment-56357 tavdy79 Tue, 08 Dec 2009 13:29:56 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=17509#comment-56357 This has been done by Quakers elsewhere. One of the Quaker Testimonies (the principles Quakers live by) is equality; for those Quakers who see no distinction between straight and gay marriage, being restricted to straight marriages means having to treat gay and straight Quakers unequally, which is unQuakerly. To treat others equally, we're left with only one choice: to perform no marriages at all. This has been done by Quakers elsewhere. One of the Quaker Testimonies (the principles Quakers live by) is equality; for those Quakers who see no distinction between straight and gay marriage, being restricted to straight marriages means having to treat gay and straight Quakers unequally, which is unQuakerly. To treat others equally, we’re left with only one choice: to perform no marriages at all.

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