Comments on: Bloomberg: Uganda To Drop Death Penalty, Add Forced “Conversions”

By: Kill The Gays Bill: Uganda Expert Calls Out Journalists For False Reports Of Death Penalty Removal | The New Civil Rights Movement

Fri, 07 Dec 2012 01:53:31 +0000

[...] But as we’ve said repeatedly, it has never been removed. And we will never tell you that it has been removed until and unless, you know, it has been removed – which has never happened in the bill’s entire three year history. Although the bill’s supporters have done their best to try to convince you otherwise. [...]

By: anteros

anteros — Sun, 13 Dec 2009 05:02:12 +0000

The old law was very vague, “against the order of nature”. This new law would punish a wide range of people, not just suspected homosexuals but also those even remotely associated with homosexuals… All that, in addition to broadening the definition of “homosexual acts” …stopping short of checking out a person of the same sex.

Forced therapy appears to be gaining massive momentum here. Silly slogans like “love and counsel homosexuals but hate and fight homosexuality” and “tolerate the sinner, not the sin” are being thrown around. Bahati on BBC said something along the lines of “we love sinners but we hate sin”. Ssempa has often claimed that he has expertise, or at least experience, in counselling homosexuals. *cringe* Many Ugandans believe, or at least claim to believe, in miracles and faith based healing… Benny Hinn kinda stuff. In a recent issue of the New Vision’s Sunday Magazine, there was a centerfold poster of gospel singer Donnie McKlurkin (sp?) and a short text on how he became straight. I really dont wanna have electrodes probed into my brain… Wont the real ex-ex-gay therapists please stand up?? Info is readily available, like BTB videos on youtube… but these guys really need some credible(from their perspective) people, like ex-ex-gay therapists, to break it down for them.

By: Priya Lynn

Priya Lynn — Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:09:23 +0000

Lynn, the major difference between this law and the old one is that in addition to life imprisonment, it provides jail sentences for anyone advocating on behalf of LGBT causes and jail sentences for anyone who does not report a known gay person. 7 and 3 years respectively if I remember correctly.

By: GreenEyedLilo

GreenEyedLilo — Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:38:50 +0000

I am *very* interested in how American conservative Christians/ex-gay promotors respond to this “improvement”!

By: Lynn David

Lynn David — Thu, 10 Dec 2009 07:16:14 +0000

So if they got rid of the death penalty, what’s the point of the bill? Life imprisonment for defiling a young male already exists in Uganda, despite Ssempa’s and Langa’s lies to the contrary. Oh yeah, all that other stuff that is actually in contravention of the Ugandan constitution.

It shows one thing up. Communism was known for its constitution that meant absolutely nothing. It appears a theocratic state like Uganda is no better in that respect. I read also today of Christian (Anglican?) bishops who tried to destroy shrines of indigenous religions in Uganda. Freedom of religion only if you are Christian, I guess.

By: Burr

Burr — Wed, 09 Dec 2009 22:05:23 +0000

I wonder if they didn’t initially include the death penalty in this bill as a ploy, knowing they would bargain it away so that once it was gone the rest of the bill wouldn’t seem so extreme.

Bingo.

By: gar

gar — Wed, 09 Dec 2009 21:22:06 +0000

They must have watched Rachel last night.

By: Kate Zeiss

Kate Zeiss — Wed, 09 Dec 2009 21:02:14 +0000

Now let’s see … who would be best positioned to bid on the government contracts for Uganda’s “re-orientation” program?

By: Priya Lynn

Priya Lynn — Wed, 09 Dec 2009 20:47:35 +0000

I wonder if they didn’t initially include the death penalty in this bill as a ploy, knowing they would bargain it away so that once it was gone the rest of the bill wouldn’t seem so extreme.