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	<title>Comments on: Scott Lively Issues Statement On Uganda</title>
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		<title>By: Cliff Kincaid of Accuracy [sic] in Media Doubles Down on Support for Ugandan Anti-Gay Genocide Bill &#171; Queer Hatred</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cliff Kincaid of Accuracy [sic] in Media Doubles Down on Support for Ugandan Anti-Gay Genocide Bill &#171; Queer Hatred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 20:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] when they keep the general parameters of the story correctly intact, they lie.  Here are the actual details of the Martyr’s Day history.  The young men were killed for their Christian faith.  The [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] when they keep the general parameters of the story correctly intact, they lie.  Here are the actual details of the Martyr’s Day history.  The young men were killed for their Christian faith.  The [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Truth Wins Out - Cliff Kincaid of Accuracy [sic] in Media Doubles Down on Support for Ugandan Anti-Gay Genocide Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Truth Wins Out - Cliff Kincaid of Accuracy [sic] in Media Doubles Down on Support for Ugandan Anti-Gay Genocide Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 18:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] when they keep the general parameters of the story correctly intact, they lie.  Here are the actual details of the Martyr&#8217;s Day history.  The young men were killed for their Catholic faith.  The [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] when they keep the general parameters of the story correctly intact, they lie.  Here are the actual details of the Martyr&#8217;s Day history.  The young men were killed for their Catholic faith.  The [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ben in Oakland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben in Oakland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 21:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, it&#039;s nice to know that according to this story, homsoexuality was not a western introduction to those nice virignal hetero africans hwo were just minding their own business when they got colonized.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it&#8217;s nice to know that according to this story, homsoexuality was not a western introduction to those nice virignal hetero africans hwo were just minding their own business when they got colonized.</p>
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		<title>By: Ephilei</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/12/11/17807/comment-page-1#comment-56827</link>
		<dc:creator>Ephilei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 18:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At this point, I don&#039;t care that Lively is probably lying and I don&#039;t care what homophobia is raging in his heart. I just want this bill to die. Thus, this post is beautiful news.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At this point, I don&#8217;t care that Lively is probably lying and I don&#8217;t care what homophobia is raging in his heart. I just want this bill to die. Thus, this post is beautiful news.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynn David</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/12/11/17807/comment-page-1#comment-56814</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynn David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 07:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott Lively also signed the Manhattan Declaration.  See #17 on the additional signers page, at:
http://www.manhattandeclaration.org/sign/addtional-signers

Andrea Lafferty of the Traditional Values Coalition signed just before him.  I wonder how the original signers feel now that they are brothers with an SPLC hate organizaation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott Lively also signed the Manhattan Declaration.  See #17 on the additional signers page, at:<br />
<a href="http://www.manhattandeclaration.org/sign/addtional-signers" rel="nofollow">http://www.manhattandeclaration.org/sign/addtional-signers</a></p>
<p>Andrea Lafferty of the Traditional Values Coalition signed just before him.  I wonder how the original signers feel now that they are brothers with an SPLC hate organizaation.</p>
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		<title>By: Edwin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 02:27:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s to bad that so many people that are supposed to be christians preach nothing but HATE.  They are all living their lives like an ostrich with their haeds in the sand and hope things will change to what they want.  
    How they think that they are going to heaven I don&#039;t understand.  They need to quit judging people, that is what GOD does and at the rate they are going satan is going to have a lot of people to keep the fire&#039;s going.
  So many idiots running around loose.  
They think we should believe what they say is the truth.
           Good
           As
           You
           !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s to bad that so many people that are supposed to be christians preach nothing but HATE.  They are all living their lives like an ostrich with their haeds in the sand and hope things will change to what they want.<br />
    How they think that they are going to heaven I don&#8217;t understand.  They need to quit judging people, that is what GOD does and at the rate they are going satan is going to have a lot of people to keep the fire&#8217;s going.<br />
  So many idiots running around loose.<br />
They think we should believe what they say is the truth.<br />
           Good<br />
           As<br />
           You<br />
           !</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Bussee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Bussee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 22:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For what it&#039;s worth, Alan Chambers just posted this on the Facebook group: &quot;Hey Michael, thanks for asking me to weigh in on the &quot;forced therapy&quot; issue. I am NOT for forced therapy for gay and lesbian people. While no one chooses their attractions I do believe that it is everyone&#039;s God given right to choose what you do with those attractions (consenting adults). I believe that those who are conflicted by their faith and feelings have the right to choose therapy and those who aren&#039;t conflicted shouldn&#039;t be forced into anything. Hope that clears up the question of where I stand on this.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For what it&#8217;s worth, Alan Chambers just posted this on the Facebook group: &#8220;Hey Michael, thanks for asking me to weigh in on the &#8220;forced therapy&#8221; issue. I am NOT for forced therapy for gay and lesbian people. While no one chooses their attractions I do believe that it is everyone&#8217;s God given right to choose what you do with those attractions (consenting adults). I believe that those who are conflicted by their faith and feelings have the right to choose therapy and those who aren&#8217;t conflicted shouldn&#8217;t be forced into anything. Hope that clears up the question of where I stand on this.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: William</title>
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		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 20:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There goes Scott Lively again with that word “homosexualized”. In fact he describes the nations of the West generally as being “homosexualized”. What the hell is it supposed to mean? That all or most of the people of those nations are now homosexual? I have to say that I haven’t noticed it. Has anyone else - apart from Scott Lively, that is?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There goes Scott Lively again with that word “homosexualized”. In fact he describes the nations of the West generally as being “homosexualized”. What the hell is it supposed to mean? That all or most of the people of those nations are now homosexual? I have to say that I haven’t noticed it. Has anyone else &#8211; apart from Scott Lively, that is?</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 20:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott Lively:

&lt;blockquote&gt; During the past decade or so, Uganda has been one of the few countries of the world that has firmly resisted the enormous power and relentless pressure of the international “gay” lobby, while other developing nations such as South Africa and Brazil have been systematically homosexualized. This is one of the reasons that Uganda’s AIDS rate went from the highest to the lowest in Africa during this same time period.&lt;/blockquote&gt;


&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/01/AR2006030102316.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Washington Post article about &lt;b&gt;Brazil&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;A working partnership with prostitutes, health officials here say, is a key reason that &lt;b&gt;the country&#039;s AIDS prevention and treatment programs are considered by the United Nations to be the most successful in the developing world.&lt;/b&gt; There are at least 600,000 people infected with HIV in Brazil -- but that is only half the number predicted by the World Bank a decade ago.

&quot;When we started in the 1980s, our projected AIDS rates were exactly the same as Africa&#039;s, but now it&#039;s a completely different story,&quot; said Mariangela Simao, deputy director of Brazil&#039;s national HIV-AIDS program in Brasilia. &quot;I&#039;m convinced it&#039;s a result of the way the government has responded. We provide information and resources, and don&#039;t enter into moral or religious issues.&quot; &lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott Lively:</p>
<blockquote><p> During the past decade or so, Uganda has been one of the few countries of the world that has firmly resisted the enormous power and relentless pressure of the international “gay” lobby, while other developing nations such as South Africa and Brazil have been systematically homosexualized. This is one of the reasons that Uganda’s AIDS rate went from the highest to the lowest in Africa during this same time period.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/01/AR2006030102316.html" rel="nofollow">Washington Post article about <b>Brazil</b></a></p>
<blockquote><p>A working partnership with prostitutes, health officials here say, is a key reason that <b>the country&#8217;s AIDS prevention and treatment programs are considered by the United Nations to be the most successful in the developing world.</b> There are at least 600,000 people infected with HIV in Brazil &#8212; but that is only half the number predicted by the World Bank a decade ago.</p>
<p>&#8220;When we started in the 1980s, our projected AIDS rates were exactly the same as Africa&#8217;s, but now it&#8217;s a completely different story,&#8221; said Mariangela Simao, deputy director of Brazil&#8217;s national HIV-AIDS program in Brasilia. &#8220;I&#8217;m convinced it&#8217;s a result of the way the government has responded. We provide information and resources, and don&#8217;t enter into moral or religious issues.&#8221; </p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: wackadoodle</title>
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		<dc:creator>wackadoodle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 19:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;This sets Lively in direct opposition to the most respected Evangelical pastor in the nation, and it leaves Uganda with a very clear choice.&lt;/i&gt;

It leaves him opposed to Warren&#039;s BS political maneuvering, not Warren&#039;s actual beliefs. They both want gay people dead. Thats why these &#039;denouncements&#039; only come after media pressure and are halfassed tripe that does nothing to address the real basis for this bill:

The LIES pushed by warren and his ilk about homosexuality being a choice, not a &#039;civil right&#039;, them being ravenous perverts, them being anti-christian...
He refuses to address any of that, just afew sentences on it being wrong to imprison them, dwarfed by him talking about himself or the church. Nothing about the REASONS Ugandans think its right to imprison them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>This sets Lively in direct opposition to the most respected Evangelical pastor in the nation, and it leaves Uganda with a very clear choice.</i></p>
<p>It leaves him opposed to Warren&#8217;s BS political maneuvering, not Warren&#8217;s actual beliefs. They both want gay people dead. Thats why these &#8216;denouncements&#8217; only come after media pressure and are halfassed tripe that does nothing to address the real basis for this bill:</p>
<p>The LIES pushed by warren and his ilk about homosexuality being a choice, not a &#8216;civil right&#8217;, them being ravenous perverts, them being anti-christian&#8230;<br />
He refuses to address any of that, just afew sentences on it being wrong to imprison them, dwarfed by him talking about himself or the church. Nothing about the REASONS Ugandans think its right to imprison them.</p>
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