Comments on: Archbishop of Canterbury Mumbles Something About Uganda http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/12/13/17989 News, analysis and fact-checking of anti-gay rhetoric Wed, 22 May 2013 07:39:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: MJC http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/12/13/17989/comment-page-1#comment-56986 MJC Mon, 14 Dec 2009 20:36:32 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=17989#comment-56986 Tim, Point taken...Rev. Warren's statement was unequivocal and unvacillating. I commend him for it...but presumably he was deliberating for some time before he issued it. I did not mean to demonize him or say untruthful things about him... BTB's coverage, by the way, has been outstanding. Tim,

Point taken…Rev. Warren’s statement was unequivocal and unvacillating. I commend him for it…but presumably he was deliberating for some time before he issued it. I did not mean to demonize him or say untruthful things about him… BTB’s coverage, by the way, has been outstanding.

]]> By: Timothy Kincaid http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/12/13/17989/comment-page-1#comment-56979 Timothy Kincaid Mon, 14 Dec 2009 19:26:25 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=17989#comment-56979 <strong>MJC,</strong> You are mistaken. Rick Warren did not weigh his words or speak carefully. Although his response was <b>very</b> late, he condemned the bill in its entirety, told ministers in Uganda that it is their moral obligation to oppose this bill, and spoke against any incarceration based on sexual orientation. <strong>darkmoonman,</strong> Please provide support for your claim that "Warren was amongst those supporting the bill". I believe this to be completely false. <strong>Guys,</strong> Rick Warren is not a friend of our community. He is not an ally in our fight for civil equality. But that does not give us the right or freedom to say untruthful things about him or demonize him. And BTB does not tolerate unsubstantiated slurs. MJC,

You are mistaken. Rick Warren did not weigh his words or speak carefully.

Although his response was very late, he condemned the bill in its entirety, told ministers in Uganda that it is their moral obligation to oppose this bill, and spoke against any incarceration based on sexual orientation.

darkmoonman,

Please provide support for your claim that “Warren was amongst those supporting the bill”.

I believe this to be completely false.

Guys,

Rick Warren is not a friend of our community. He is not an ally in our fight for civil equality.

But that does not give us the right or freedom to say untruthful things about him or demonize him. And BTB does not tolerate unsubstantiated slurs.

]]> By: darkmoonman http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/12/13/17989/comment-page-1#comment-56962 darkmoonman Mon, 14 Dec 2009 17:47:31 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=17989#comment-56962 Maybe, but Williams wasn't lying through his teeth like Warren was. Warren was amongst those supporting the bill until his connection became public. Maybe, but Williams wasn’t lying through his teeth like Warren was. Warren was amongst those supporting the bill until his connection became public.

]]> By: MJC http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/12/13/17989/comment-page-1#comment-56945 MJC Mon, 14 Dec 2009 15:00:33 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=17989#comment-56945 People wonder why these old stiffs are so irrelevant, but here is your proof: in the face of a clear, unequivocal, horrible, universal moral evil, the Archbishop of Canterbury, the Holy See, Rick Warren and others (not that these are of equal weight, historically) have to 'weigh their words' and 'speak carefully' etc. They should all go home and REREAD THE EFFING NEW TESTAMENT, especially the Good Samaritan story. This is no time to weigh words---do the Archbishop and Pope not remember how they dragged their heels re the Nazi threat to the Jews? I am glad they said something...but as was the case then, it may be too little, too late. Warren himself must be in agony, if he has a conscience at all, about the lethal forces he has helped unleash. People wonder why these old stiffs are so irrelevant, but here is your proof: in the face of a clear, unequivocal, horrible, universal moral evil, the Archbishop of Canterbury, the Holy See, Rick Warren and others (not that these are of equal weight, historically) have to ‘weigh their words’ and ‘speak carefully’ etc. They should all go home and REREAD THE EFFING NEW TESTAMENT, especially the Good Samaritan story. This is no time to weigh words—do the Archbishop and Pope not remember how they dragged their heels re the Nazi threat to the Jews? I am glad they said something…but as was the case then, it may be too little, too late. Warren himself must be in agony, if he has a conscience at all, about the lethal forces he has helped unleash.

]]> By: gayuganda http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/12/13/17989/comment-page-1#comment-56936 gayuganda Mon, 14 Dec 2009 12:44:06 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=17989#comment-56936 I loved the title to this one.... Mumbled indeed! gug I loved the title to this one….

Mumbled indeed!

gug

]]> By: Elliot in NY http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/12/13/17989/comment-page-1#comment-56921 Elliot in NY Mon, 14 Dec 2009 04:58:29 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=17989#comment-56921 What's that? We couldn't hear you in the back. What’s that? We couldn’t hear you in the back.

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