Comments on: LGBT Group: Archbishop of Canterbury Quietly Condemns Uganda’s Anti-Gay Bill http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/12/17/18411 News, analysis and fact-checking of anti-gay rhetoric Sun, 12 Feb 2012 12:29:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Scott http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/12/17/18411/comment-page-1#comment-57379 Scott Sat, 19 Dec 2009 00:46:39 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=18411#comment-57379 I would concur with the other two comments. As a non-Anglican I have watched from the sidelines as the Episcopal Church has fragmented. I find it interesting, hypocritical, and a bit scary that the traditional Anglicans are quick to criticize and gripe about a lesbian bishop being nominated in California yet keep fairly quiet about a potential travesty for gays and lesbians in Uganda. Would not a true Christian be vocal about potential torture, violence, and outright hatred of any class of humans? Is loving one's neighbor as thyself not a basic tenet of Christianity? Sites such as "Stand Firm in Faith", a blog run by disgruntled conservative Anglicans is another example of this type of sactimonious, hypocritical behavior. There is page after page of posts railing against the gay and lesbian clergy and yet NO discussion of this Uganda issue. Even if they believe their mantra of "don't hate the sinner, hate the sin", it would appear that even that has fallen by the wayside and has been replaced by outright hatred and anger. This is why I am not affiliated with major religous groups as many make the human race look like fools. I would concur with the other two comments. As a non-Anglican I have watched from the sidelines as the Episcopal Church has fragmented. I find it interesting, hypocritical, and a bit scary that the traditional Anglicans are quick to criticize and gripe about a lesbian bishop being nominated in California yet keep fairly quiet about a potential travesty for gays and lesbians in Uganda. Would not a true Christian be vocal about potential torture, violence, and outright hatred of any class of humans? Is loving one’s neighbor as thyself not a basic tenet of Christianity? Sites such as “Stand Firm in Faith”, a blog run by disgruntled conservative Anglicans is another example of this type of sactimonious, hypocritical behavior. There is page after page of posts railing against the gay and lesbian clergy and yet NO discussion of this Uganda issue. Even if they believe their mantra of “don’t hate the sinner, hate the sin”, it would appear that even that has fallen by the wayside and has been replaced by outright hatred and anger. This is why I am not affiliated with major religous groups as many make the human race look like fools.

]]> By: Richard W. Fitch http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/12/17/18411/comment-page-1#comment-57300 Richard W. Fitch Fri, 18 Dec 2009 04:06:18 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=18411#comment-57300 Sadly, the Anglican Church is now more or less hostage to the Primates of Africa and the Southern Cone. Although the western provinces such as the USA and Canada provide the lion's share of the finances, the third-world congregations now substantially exceed in terms of numbers of 'faithful'. I have said before that I see ++Rowan as a mealy-mouthed pawn in this battle between the progressives and the fundamentalists. However, replacing the AOC is only a political ploy in this affair. The only solution will be the ultimate realization that the two factions can never achieve an adequate compromise. Schism, however appalling it maybe to some, will be the final outcome. It is already de facto in the US with conservatives who have disaffected from the national church, receiving their episcopal leadership from the likes of Akinola of Nigeria. Sadly, the Anglican Church is now more or less hostage to the Primates of Africa and the Southern Cone. Although the western provinces such as the USA and Canada provide the lion’s share of the finances, the third-world congregations now substantially exceed in terms of numbers of ‘faithful’. I have said before that I see ++Rowan as a mealy-mouthed pawn in this battle between the progressives and the fundamentalists. However, replacing the AOC is only a political ploy in this affair. The only solution will be the ultimate realization that the two factions can never achieve an adequate compromise. Schism, however appalling it maybe to some, will be the final outcome. It is already de facto in the US with conservatives who have disaffected from the national church, receiving their episcopal leadership from the likes of Akinola of Nigeria.

]]> By: Trey http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/12/17/18411/comment-page-1#comment-57298 Trey Fri, 18 Dec 2009 03:48:50 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=18411#comment-57298 What stuns me is that in the many months since the Uganda "Kill Gays" bill came to light, the Archbishop of Canterbury has said virtually nothing publicly about the horrific bill and it's many Anglican supporters in Uganda, in effect condoning the bill. However, within 24 hours of the announcement that the Episcopal Diocese of Los Angeles had elected a highly qualified and skilled priest as an assistant bishop, who also happens to be an out, partnered lesbian, Archbishop Williams had issued a stinging statement condemning the election. Time for a new bishop in Canterbury! What stuns me is that in the many months since the Uganda “Kill Gays” bill came to light, the Archbishop of Canterbury has said virtually nothing publicly about the horrific bill and it’s many Anglican supporters in Uganda, in effect condoning the bill. However, within 24 hours of the announcement that the Episcopal Diocese of Los Angeles had elected a highly qualified and skilled priest as an assistant bishop, who also happens to be an out, partnered lesbian, Archbishop Williams had issued a stinging statement condemning the election.

Time for a new bishop in Canterbury!

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