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	<title>Comments on: Ugandan Pastors Demand Apology from Rick Warren</title>
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		<title>By: A Quebec Dentist, some rope, (no water?), his 10-year old son, and why &#8220;estranged&#8221;? Mom called the Police&#8230;. &#171; Let&#39;sGetHonestBlog</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Quebec Dentist, some rope, (no water?), his 10-year old son, and why &#8220;estranged&#8221;? Mom called the Police&#8230;. &#171; Let&#39;sGetHonestBlog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2010 03:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is not only standing by their man, but they are also abetting his cause by actively propagating Ssempa’s intentionally false description of what is actually in the proposed Anti-Homosexuality Bill. Canyon [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Rev Spitz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rev Spitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 17:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick Warren should mind his own business. If Uganda wants to put sexual deviants to death, then so be it, that&#039;s their business. 
It&#039;s a good thing to stop these crimes against nature and crimes against humanity, to protect the human race from sexual deviants.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick Warren should mind his own business. If Uganda wants to put sexual deviants to death, then so be it, that&#8217;s their business.<br />
It&#8217;s a good thing to stop these crimes against nature and crimes against humanity, to protect the human race from sexual deviants.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 18:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James,

You are mistaken.  Only the Arab nations kill gay people.  All western nations, indeed many of the Asian nations and the most prosperous African nation, have decriminalized homosexuality.  

Virtually every Western European nation, along with much of the North America and some of South America not only allow gay citizens, but give legal recognition to same-sex relationships.

Foolishly, you see the natural attraction between people of the same sex as &quot;foreign&quot;.  But it will be Ugandans, your own children, whom you will be incarcerating and executing.

If Uganda goes in this direction, you will be viewed by the entire civilized world as a backwards uncivilized people.  You will not be respected, but rather pitied for your ignorance, superstition, and hatred.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James,</p>
<p>You are mistaken.  Only the Arab nations kill gay people.  All western nations, indeed many of the Asian nations and the most prosperous African nation, have decriminalized homosexuality.  </p>
<p>Virtually every Western European nation, along with much of the North America and some of South America not only allow gay citizens, but give legal recognition to same-sex relationships.</p>
<p>Foolishly, you see the natural attraction between people of the same sex as &#8220;foreign&#8221;.  But it will be Ugandans, your own children, whom you will be incarcerating and executing.</p>
<p>If Uganda goes in this direction, you will be viewed by the entire civilized world as a backwards uncivilized people.  You will not be respected, but rather pitied for your ignorance, superstition, and hatred.</p>
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		<title>By: Priya Lynn</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/12/21/18656/comment-page-1#comment-57784</link>
		<dc:creator>Priya Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 17:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shame on you James for supporting the immoral extreme punishment of those who harm no one.

You asked &quot;How can we support such ideologies that have never been resident in Uganda?&quot;.  There are two things wrong with your question.  First, Christianity had never been resident in Uganda and you&#039;ve supported that ideology so you can&#039;t claim you don&#039;t support ideologies that have never been resident.  Second, gayness has always existed in Uganda, there&#039;s never been a place on earth that hasn&#039;t had gays througout its existence.

Spare us your whining about the story of the Uganda martyrs.  The only person who has responsiblity for trying to force those men into an unwanted sex act is the person who did so.  Gay people nowadays had nothing to do with that and bear no responsibility for it whatsoever.  When an HIV positive man in your country rapes a young girl in a vain attempt to cure himself you don&#039;t assign responsibility for that crime to every heterosexual in the country, so stop trying to perpetuate that grotesque dishonest that all gays are responsible for the Uganda martyrs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shame on you James for supporting the immoral extreme punishment of those who harm no one.</p>
<p>You asked &#8220;How can we support such ideologies that have never been resident in Uganda?&#8221;.  There are two things wrong with your question.  First, Christianity had never been resident in Uganda and you&#8217;ve supported that ideology so you can&#8217;t claim you don&#8217;t support ideologies that have never been resident.  Second, gayness has always existed in Uganda, there&#8217;s never been a place on earth that hasn&#8217;t had gays througout its existence.</p>
<p>Spare us your whining about the story of the Uganda martyrs.  The only person who has responsiblity for trying to force those men into an unwanted sex act is the person who did so.  Gay people nowadays had nothing to do with that and bear no responsibility for it whatsoever.  When an HIV positive man in your country rapes a young girl in a vain attempt to cure himself you don&#8217;t assign responsibility for that crime to every heterosexual in the country, so stop trying to perpetuate that grotesque dishonest that all gays are responsible for the Uganda martyrs.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 16:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I truly sympathise with the non Ugandans who have consistently thrown nasty comments on this bill and the proponents of it. For nature&#039;s sake, Uganda has its own culture that has been promoted since time immemorial. Homosexuality brought in by the Arabs tried to establish itself in our nation. However, we rejected it completely(follow the story of the Uganda martyrs). We will not stop supporting the bill despite the pressure from selfish funders like Sweden, USA, etc. How can we support such ideologies that have never been resident in Uganda? No, we can&#039;t. Please keep your homosexuality in the States, Europe, Australia but not Uganda. Imagine how many nations have embraced homosexuality? there only seven out of the many. Shame upon you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I truly sympathise with the non Ugandans who have consistently thrown nasty comments on this bill and the proponents of it. For nature&#8217;s sake, Uganda has its own culture that has been promoted since time immemorial. Homosexuality brought in by the Arabs tried to establish itself in our nation. However, we rejected it completely(follow the story of the Uganda martyrs). We will not stop supporting the bill despite the pressure from selfish funders like Sweden, USA, etc. How can we support such ideologies that have never been resident in Uganda? No, we can&#8217;t. Please keep your homosexuality in the States, Europe, Australia but not Uganda. Imagine how many nations have embraced homosexuality? there only seven out of the many. Shame upon you.</p>
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		<title>By: anteros</title>
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		<dc:creator>anteros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 15:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While it&#039;s true that trashing this bill is currently more important than decriminalising homosexuality (it&#039;s currently a criminal offence in Uganda as it has been for decades), influential christian leaders need to be heard loud and clear explaining that judging others&#039; sins, self-righteousness, hate, intolerance and turning sins into crimes is just not Christ-like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While it&#8217;s true that trashing this bill is currently more important than decriminalising homosexuality (it&#8217;s currently a criminal offence in Uganda as it has been for decades), influential christian leaders need to be heard loud and clear explaining that judging others&#8217; sins, self-righteousness, hate, intolerance and turning sins into crimes is just not Christ-like.</p>
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		<title>By: anteros</title>
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		<dc:creator>anteros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 14:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really wish that christian leaders who have huge influence in Uganda (such as Benny Hinn, T.D. Jakes, Andrew Wommack, and Creflo Dollar) would speak to their Ugandan audience about this incredibly judgmental bill. That would be a great way to get Ssempa to humble himself. Otherwise, he&#039;s going to continue elbowing, pushing, shoving and lying until this bill is passed. Ssempa regularly spreads his homophobia via television and other media by clevery asserting the following to his ignorant audiences:

Homosexuality = anal sex = sodomy = evil = ungodly = unAfrican = western perversion = unnatural = unhealthy = hiv infection = male rape = recruitment of kids into homosexuality = male prostitution = illegal = threat to society etc

He is very vocal and does a great job of stirring up mass hysetria and homophobia. He wont stop.

More people like Rick Warren really need to be heard loud and clear by Ugandans, so that Ssempa&#039;s righteously homophobic roars can be exposed as ignorant/manipulative, judgmental, unchristian, bigotted, baseless rants.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really wish that christian leaders who have huge influence in Uganda (such as Benny Hinn, T.D. Jakes, Andrew Wommack, and Creflo Dollar) would speak to their Ugandan audience about this incredibly judgmental bill. That would be a great way to get Ssempa to humble himself. Otherwise, he&#8217;s going to continue elbowing, pushing, shoving and lying until this bill is passed. Ssempa regularly spreads his homophobia via television and other media by clevery asserting the following to his ignorant audiences:</p>
<p>Homosexuality = anal sex = sodomy = evil = ungodly = unAfrican = western perversion = unnatural = unhealthy = hiv infection = male rape = recruitment of kids into homosexuality = male prostitution = illegal = threat to society etc</p>
<p>He is very vocal and does a great job of stirring up mass hysetria and homophobia. He wont stop.</p>
<p>More people like Rick Warren really need to be heard loud and clear by Ugandans, so that Ssempa&#8217;s righteously homophobic roars can be exposed as ignorant/manipulative, judgmental, unchristian, bigotted, baseless rants.</p>
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		<title>By: Mykelb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mykelb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 07:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was watching on History channel today about the history of the Christian cult.  Seems that the Christians were used as political scapegoats for the ills of the Roman society and therefore sacrificed during the 300s until they got political power through Constantine (a general who became Emperor).  

Seems that the persecution of gays by the Christians in America is the same story, only they do it within their own families by throwing away their children to the streets, locking them up in Exodus or incite their &quot;flock&quot; to kill us individually (i.e., Matthew Shepard).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was watching on History channel today about the history of the Christian cult.  Seems that the Christians were used as political scapegoats for the ills of the Roman society and therefore sacrificed during the 300s until they got political power through Constantine (a general who became Emperor).  </p>
<p>Seems that the persecution of gays by the Christians in America is the same story, only they do it within their own families by throwing away their children to the streets, locking them up in Exodus or incite their &#8220;flock&#8221; to kill us individually (i.e., Matthew Shepard).</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Justice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Justice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 19:43:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While there is all too clearly an issue of the problematical character of the Ugandan government, I think the matter here is one of playing Rick Warren for his previous engagement with some of the leading figures of that society.  One might paraphrase it as, &quot;Bad Daddy! Get back into your role, so we can get what we want here.&quot;  

As has been all too often the case, Warren&#039;s engagement with the leading parties in Uganda and Rwanda has been ill considered.  This kind of backwash is an all to common result.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While there is all too clearly an issue of the problematical character of the Ugandan government, I think the matter here is one of playing Rick Warren for his previous engagement with some of the leading figures of that society.  One might paraphrase it as, &#8220;Bad Daddy! Get back into your role, so we can get what we want here.&#8221;  </p>
<p>As has been all too often the case, Warren&#8217;s engagement with the leading parties in Uganda and Rwanda has been ill considered.  This kind of backwash is an all to common result.</p>
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		<title>By: Priya Lynn</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/12/21/18656/comment-page-1#comment-57691</link>
		<dc:creator>Priya Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 18:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting letter, it takes the same approach that some ugandans have on other blogs I&#039;ve been on.  Basically the approach is to claim the bill is entirely about punishing HIV positive men who rape boys and to ignore the aspects of the bill that punish innocent gay men.  Then when people oppose the bill its insinuated or stated that the person in opposition is opposed to punishing HIV positive rapists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting letter, it takes the same approach that some ugandans have on other blogs I&#8217;ve been on.  Basically the approach is to claim the bill is entirely about punishing HIV positive men who rape boys and to ignore the aspects of the bill that punish innocent gay men.  Then when people oppose the bill its insinuated or stated that the person in opposition is opposed to punishing HIV positive rapists.</p>
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