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By: anteros

anteros — Wed, 06 Jan 2010 10:30:26 +0000

Ssempa’s claim that witchdoctors advise their hiv/aids clients to rape virgins/kids is just another example of Ssempa being untruthful… that has been a persistent problem in South Africa for years, but that particular phenomenon is alien to Uganda. In South Africa, mostly baby girls not boys, have been victimised this way… it’s almost exclusively a problem of “heterosexual” child rape… in SOUTH AFRICA, NOT UGANDA. He’s lying on purpose as usual, just to generate more hate and disgust towards homosexuals. What a shame… many Ugandans are buying his lies. Will he ever get tired of lying?

Even if it were a problem in Uganda, as he implicitly suggests… this bill wouldnt solve that problem at all.

By: Bill

Bill — Tue, 05 Jan 2010 21:33:34 +0000

With 80% of HIV/AIDS cases in Africa contracted HETEROSEXUALLY, I guess we can expect an Anti-Heterosexuality Bill of 2010???

By: Burr

Burr — Sun, 03 Jan 2010 14:50:01 +0000

English is one of Uganda’s official languages..

By: Jim

Jim — Sun, 03 Jan 2010 09:00:02 +0000

Martin Ssempa speaks English well. I admire that so many people outside the states make a point to learn other languages. I should learn a different language too. BUT. I don’t understand the language of lies and manipulation.

By: gayuganda

gayuganda — Sat, 02 Jan 2010 06:18:29 +0000

Anguksuar

you have got the man right. He lies, dazzles and dodges, picking up a fact, twisting it, and then turning to present it in another way. That is Ssempa.

Fact check him and most of his facts dont jell. Not at all.

That National Task Force of pastors was 20 pastors who met in the Minister of Ethics and Integrity’s office to formulate an answer to the wave of condemnation from Christians outside the country.

In Uganda itself, the Catholic Church has come out with a statement AGAINST the bill. I know for a fact that they have been double talking, supporting the bill, but being prodded by the Vatican to follow Catholic teaching. They cannot support the Task Force or any of its statements. Because it is directly contradictory to the statement of the Catholic Bishops of Uganda read by the Archbishop. It is on BTB

By: Rob

Rob — Sat, 02 Jan 2010 05:40:47 +0000

I’ve flagged the videos.

By: Anguksuar

Anguksuar — Fri, 01 Jan 2010 17:56:35 +0000

One more thing- the national task force that he mentions- it’s a paper tiger- there’s a Ugandan Joint Christian Council that he refers to: http://www.ujcc.org/ujcc.php

you can join this- I did, and therefore it is easier to keep an eye on them. The ‘task force’ in his Rick Warren letter refers to principally 3 hazily defined religious bodies:
-”The National Fellowship of Born again Churches” (hard to say exactly what that is, but it hardly sounds mainline denominational)
-”The Seventh Adventists Church” (he doesn’t have the correct title of the denomination quite right in this instance)
-and “The Uganda Joint Christian Council”

The interesting thing about that council is that there is no evidence of activity on their website between roughly 2005- to this year, when suddenly there were a couple of new front page articles, to give the website that lived-in, cared-for look. I think it’s a sham and his whole national task force is a sham as well.

It would be extremely interesting to compare the claim in his letter that his pastors task force speaks for the Roman Catholic Church in Uganda- and cross check that with the Vatican offices to see if this ridiculous sounding claim is at all viable. He may not be saying anything deceptive intentionally, but the authority he claims to represent seems to be rather overextended. Particularly since the Catholic Church has condemned the proposed legislation.

By: Anguksuar

Anguksuar — Fri, 01 Jan 2010 17:45:43 +0000

it’s interesting that Ssempa says that he says that ‘homosexuality’ breaks the laws of 5,000 years of culture, from Timbuktu to Cairo. Actually, the oldest known visual representation and celebration of same sex love is Egyptian. And actually too, African tribal and cultural history is relatively equivalent to American Indian traditions, where there is a spectrum of genders, an acceptance and respect for all people, and an enlightened view of the reflection of the divine in all human beings. I wrote to Ssempa and said I thought he was a puppet dancing to Rick Warren’s twisted music. You can send him your opinion directly as well: “Martin Ssempa”
Just for the record, he does list this email on his rolls royce of a website and invites communication from all comers.
Happy 2010