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	<title>Comments on: LaBarbera Award: Cliff Kincaid</title>
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		<title>By: Prup (aka Jim Benton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prup (aka Jim Benton</dc:creator>
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		<description>One thing that has scared me about the Uganda coverage almost every place but here has been the over-emphasis on the death penalty.  Even if you argue that this is the &#039;worst&#039; part of the bill -- and death penalty opponents such as myself have long argued that life imprisonment -- without parole -- is as severe a punishment as death -- for an individual, I get worried that the Ugandan/American forces will &#039;retreat&#039; from this and everyone -- except you and those close to you -- will cheer, pat themselves on the back, and figure the fight is over.

In fact, for a society/polity, there are even worse features in the bill.  The &#039;extraterritoriality&#039; provisions, which would, apparently, allow Ugandan officials to seize, detain, transfer, and try a gay Ugandan who has left the country and even abandoned his citizenship;

The provision punsihing a landlord for renting to an LGBT person -- which requires landlords to show constant vigilance, to observe and even violate the privacy of anyone they rent to -- not just &#039;obvious gays&#039; but any tenants, because who knows what they might be up to &#039;behind closed doors&#039;;

The punishment against &#039;advocacy&#039; whish -- afaik -- has no &#039;Parliamentary immunity&#039; and could, therefore, be used against any MoP introducing a law repealing it -- and certainly could be used against any political group or newspaper supporting such a repeal;

And, worst of all, the penalties for friends and family members, including parents, failing to report gays.

It is not just that these are reminiscent of the worst examples of Totalitarian regimes of the Thirties, but the fact that those regimes had none of the technological innovations that are available to enforce tham that exist today.  Even a handful of public trials on each of these provisions would scare all Ugandans into taking precautions against putting themselves at risk.

So please make sure that, were the &#039;death penalty&#039; provision to be removed, that Western activists would not retire from the fray, imagining themselves to have &#039;triumphed.&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing that has scared me about the Uganda coverage almost every place but here has been the over-emphasis on the death penalty.  Even if you argue that this is the &#8216;worst&#8217; part of the bill &#8212; and death penalty opponents such as myself have long argued that life imprisonment &#8212; without parole &#8212; is as severe a punishment as death &#8212; for an individual, I get worried that the Ugandan/American forces will &#8216;retreat&#8217; from this and everyone &#8212; except you and those close to you &#8212; will cheer, pat themselves on the back, and figure the fight is over.</p>
<p>In fact, for a society/polity, there are even worse features in the bill.  The &#8216;extraterritoriality&#8217; provisions, which would, apparently, allow Ugandan officials to seize, detain, transfer, and try a gay Ugandan who has left the country and even abandoned his citizenship;</p>
<p>The provision punsihing a landlord for renting to an LGBT person &#8212; which requires landlords to show constant vigilance, to observe and even violate the privacy of anyone they rent to &#8212; not just &#8216;obvious gays&#8217; but any tenants, because who knows what they might be up to &#8216;behind closed doors&#8217;;</p>
<p>The punishment against &#8216;advocacy&#8217; whish &#8212; afaik &#8212; has no &#8216;Parliamentary immunity&#8217; and could, therefore, be used against any MoP introducing a law repealing it &#8212; and certainly could be used against any political group or newspaper supporting such a repeal;</p>
<p>And, worst of all, the penalties for friends and family members, including parents, failing to report gays.</p>
<p>It is not just that these are reminiscent of the worst examples of Totalitarian regimes of the Thirties, but the fact that those regimes had none of the technological innovations that are available to enforce tham that exist today.  Even a handful of public trials on each of these provisions would scare all Ugandans into taking precautions against putting themselves at risk.</p>
<p>So please make sure that, were the &#8216;death penalty&#8217; provision to be removed, that Western activists would not retire from the fray, imagining themselves to have &#8216;triumphed.&#8217;</p>
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