Comments on: “Family” Member Defends Statements Made To Rachel Maddow, Provides Transcript of Conversation With Sharlet

By: robbaydj

robbaydj — Mon, 11 Jan 2010 01:51:18 +0000

Kevin Andrews you have no idea what your talking about. Have you listened at all to Mr. Hunter’s Argument. Tell me Mr. Andrews what evidence do you have to support your claims. Bob Hunter and other people in the fellowship are trying to stop this bill. What have you done Kevin to stop this awful bill. Oh yeah nothing! So before you go blogging hatred all around try to look a little deeper. Now is the time to work together. Let’s work to stop this bill! Not blame a group of people who not only have nothing to do with it but are trying to stop it.
Before this bill Bob Hunter has never been involved in any other Bill in that Uganda, the Ugandans view outside negotiations to legislation neocolonialism. Unfortunately the majority of Ugandans support the bill, but in this case obviously the majority of Uganda is wrong. But good news!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/8448197.stm
it looks like the Ugandan Government Minister says gay death penalty unnecessary. Well that’s a start but there is still a long road ahead to work to stop the bill, for Gay Rights in Uganda and around Africa. The Fellowship should have a Gay Speaker at the Prayer Breakfast). But if they made it a reality Kevin would still blog hatred while others try to bridge gaps.
Bob Hunter started NICO “National Insurance Consumer Organization” with Ralph Nadar after he left the Carter Administration. He’s a bleeding heart liberal which proves that the “Family” is not conservative. Al Gore, Hillary Clinton, Mother Theresa have all been involved with this group as well as Sister Rose Marie of Northern Uganda who has help thousands of young teenage mothers get back on there feet and won the CNN hero’s award. There is no conspiracy. In Uganda Bob Hunter has helped hospitals, and helped the “Lost Children” of Northern Uganda get educations and food and shelter. Bob has helped thousands of people who fall victim to big insurance all over this country and has supported Universal Health Care.

By: Mel

Mel — Sun, 10 Jan 2010 19:56:10 +0000

Jeff Sharlet is one of the best things to happen to the Rachel Maddow show. Thank you so much for your investigative work.

By: Kevin Andrews

Kevin Andrews — Sun, 10 Jan 2010 17:38:09 +0000

Peace at what price?
The demonization of the LGBT Communities in line with the Cults of Jesus Bigotry?
These Cult of Jesus Theocrats, are the biggest threat to the United States Security and to Global Peace because of the Hate and Bigotry they spew as a “normal” process of conversation with anyone.
We, in the United States, are very able to understand the bias presented from their foundations of bigotry and hate but the bottom line end result of their meddling in the affairs of African States is clear to the Global Community. This is American Cult of Jesus Nazism at it’s finest and is beyond comprehension how and why this subversive Cult of Jesus is accepted without being a declared PAC within Washington.
Inhof, Grassley and all the members of the C-Street Family deserve censure and expulsion from the Congress and Senate of the United States of America because of this subversive alliance and the reality of their acts in misrepresenting America to the leaders of Uganda.
Disgusting and reprehensible Cults of Jesus behavior and all appearing as endorsed by the political office of the people presenting this hate and bigotry. That’s unacceptable behavior from any American.

By: Jeff Sharlet

Jeff Sharlet — Sun, 10 Jan 2010 03:26:01 +0000

I spoke to Bob Hunter this evening after this went up on Box Turtle. The bottom line is that we’re in agreement on some central points: The bill, proposed and supported by men in relationship with the Family — David Bahati, James Nsaba Buturo, and Yoweri Museveni — is wrong and must be stopped; the Family has been too secretive, which has hindered its ability to take a stand; and Hunter is doing the right thing by going public in order to make that stand.

My use of the phrase “Jesus footing” was not derogatory. It was, as I told Bob tonight, in recognition of the Family’s long stated goal of a “God-led government.” The particular document I had in mind — related to Senator Jim Inhofe’s extensive work in Uganda on behalf of the Family — describes one aspect of the Africa work thusly:

“2. THE EXECUTION OF THE VISION
A. A congressman and/or Senator from the United States will befriend the leader of another country and tell him/her how Jesus and His teachings will help his country and its poor.
B. U.S. leader and foreign leader will select 5 men (mentors) from the foreign country to commit to learn about Jesus and how He will help themselves, their country and the poor.

“… We will teach the mentors to confess their sins (known or unknown) and to ask the Holy Spirit of Christ to live in them, and to teach them how to live, what to think and what to say.”

Bob says he’s unfamiliar with this document. I believe him. There’s a lot of paperwork in the Family. And, to be fair, Bob’s pretty busy doing consumer advocacy work.

We also agreed that a there’s no point in us having a pissing match here in America while Uganda burns, so to speak. So, in that spirit, I’m going to take Bob’s word that he was simply trying to clarify the record; accept his apology for saying that I’ve disowned my book (a misunderstanding, he says); and leave the transcript above to speak for itself. It was an on the record conversation. “Bait” is “bait,” the use of a big name to bring people to the table behind the scenes. Whether that’s a good approach is in the eye of the beholder. I think it’s fair to say — and that Bob would at least in part agree – that in the case of Jim Inhofe, the fiercely anti-gay senator identified by a 2003-4 budget as responsible for maintaining relationships with leaders of 11 African nations, including Uganda, Rwanda, and Burundi — the “bait” may have brought his own baggage.

But Hunter, thank God, is cut from a different cloth. The point is that Bob is trying to bring peace and human rights to Uganda. We can disagree about how to do that, we can even disagree about what constitutes “peace,” but right now, on the brink of murder, our disagreements don’t matter as much as our common cause.