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	<title>Comments on: Prop 8 supporters fight to keep cameras out of the courtroom</title>
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		<title>By: Ephilei</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2010/01/09/19251/comment-page-1#comment-59730</link>
		<dc:creator>Ephilei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 17:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Gallagher and crew aren’t afraid that they will be targeted for hateful email or a vengeful grocery clerk&quot;

I disagree. I think they believe what they say. What&#039;s that saying? &quot;Never identify as malevolent what you can blame on stupidity.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Gallagher and crew aren’t afraid that they will be targeted for hateful email or a vengeful grocery clerk&#8221;</p>
<p>I disagree. I think they believe what they say. What&#8217;s that saying? &#8220;Never identify as malevolent what you can blame on stupidity.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: B John</title>
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		<dc:creator>B John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 18:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the general tone of the comments here. I suspect the Prop 8 supporters realize they really have nothing on which to stand except bigotry. As one person pointed out, in Court, they won&#039;t be able to just play on emotions.

Given that, it&#039;s pretty obvious they don&#039;t want the world to see what is really behind the curtain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the general tone of the comments here. I suspect the Prop 8 supporters realize they really have nothing on which to stand except bigotry. As one person pointed out, in Court, they won&#8217;t be able to just play on emotions.</p>
<p>Given that, it&#8217;s pretty obvious they don&#8217;t want the world to see what is really behind the curtain.</p>
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		<title>By: scotte</title>
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		<dc:creator>scotte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 18:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In addition to not really wanting to own their words in public for fear of serious analysis, perhaps the greater fear of the Prop 8 folks is the YouTube &#039;backlash&#039;. 
 Just think about the responses to NoM&#039;s idiotic commercials and then consider the creative potential in all that court testimony.  To be threatened (however much exaggeration is included to get to something that can be called a threat) can be spun as persecution.  To be laughed at?  Not so much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In addition to not really wanting to own their words in public for fear of serious analysis, perhaps the greater fear of the Prop 8 folks is the YouTube &#8216;backlash&#8217;.<br />
 Just think about the responses to NoM&#8217;s idiotic commercials and then consider the creative potential in all that court testimony.  To be threatened (however much exaggeration is included to get to something that can be called a threat) can be spun as persecution.  To be laughed at?  Not so much.</p>
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		<title>By: David Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 15:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It should go without saying that a person should be allowed to marry whomever they choose. Until the right-wing, religious fanatics in this country stop trying to control everybody else and force their “morals” down the throat of the country, there can be no real freedom in the United States. I invite you to my web pages devoted to raising awareness on this puritan attack on our freedom: http://freethegods.blogspot.com/2009/06/san-franciscos-gay-pride-parade.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It should go without saying that a person should be allowed to marry whomever they choose. Until the right-wing, religious fanatics in this country stop trying to control everybody else and force their “morals” down the throat of the country, there can be no real freedom in the United States. I invite you to my web pages devoted to raising awareness on this puritan attack on our freedom: <a href="http://freethegods.blogspot.com/2009/06/san-franciscos-gay-pride-parade.html" rel="nofollow">http://freethegods.blogspot.com/2009/06/san-franciscos-gay-pride-parade.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 15:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These people don&#039;t want prop 8 because they say their god says mariage is between a man and a woman.  They&#039;re worried about retribution?  What better way to show their belief than to not be worried about retribution because, won&#039;t their god protect them?  Put them on TV.  As a matter of fact, go to everyone&#039;s house that is against gay marriage, film them saying it along with their address and them saying they&#039;re protected and NOTHING can possibly happen to them because their god says so.  Let them show their true beliefs and feelings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These people don&#8217;t want prop 8 because they say their god says mariage is between a man and a woman.  They&#8217;re worried about retribution?  What better way to show their belief than to not be worried about retribution because, won&#8217;t their god protect them?  Put them on TV.  As a matter of fact, go to everyone&#8217;s house that is against gay marriage, film them saying it along with their address and them saying they&#8217;re protected and NOTHING can possibly happen to them because their god says so.  Let them show their true beliefs and feelings.</p>
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		<title>By: Marlene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marlene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 09:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just *love* how the oppressors are now crying that they&#039;re being oppressed!

They have no clue what it&#039;s like, and bigots like Maggie and her ilk are generally cowards and bullies who&#039;ve tried to get their way through fearmongering and scapegoating the voters.

It&#039;s very different in court, where the law is the one in control, not emotion -- and that&#039;s what the bigots are afraid of!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just *love* how the oppressors are now crying that they&#8217;re being oppressed!</p>
<p>They have no clue what it&#8217;s like, and bigots like Maggie and her ilk are generally cowards and bullies who&#8217;ve tried to get their way through fearmongering and scapegoating the voters.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s very different in court, where the law is the one in control, not emotion &#8212; and that&#8217;s what the bigots are afraid of!</p>
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		<title>By: Stefano A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stefano A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 06:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By complaints I mean actual police complaints filed where charges, investigations and arrests were made.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By complaints I mean actual police complaints filed where charges, investigations and arrests were made.</p>
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		<title>By: Stefano A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stefano A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 06:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regan DuCasse

Indeed!

I, too, am totally fed up with that line of demonization and wish the main stream would stop playing into it. By that, I mean I wish they would start demanding proof via court records/complaints, direct correlations, instead of this &quot;x said&quot; crapola as if everyone should just take their word for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regan DuCasse</p>
<p>Indeed!</p>
<p>I, too, am totally fed up with that line of demonization and wish the main stream would stop playing into it. By that, I mean I wish they would start demanding proof via court records/complaints, direct correlations, instead of this &#8220;x said&#8221; crapola as if everyone should just take their word for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Stefano A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stefano A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 06:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah. I see in another post you elaborated on Tam. (Thumbs up!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah. I see in another post you elaborated on Tam. (Thumbs up!)</p>
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		<title>By: Regan DuCasse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Regan DuCasse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 05:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m so OVER this &#039;the gays are going to be MEAN to us! The gays are intimidating us and we fear for our safety!&#039;

 Oh BULLSH*T!

  The exaggeration and claims are way beyond outrageous, they are in the realm of delusion now. Yeah, right...running for cover and going into hiding as if they suddenly got dropped into gay &quot;Zombieland.&quot;

    The execution of Lawrence King, the assault on the Susuzchanay brothers or the gang rape of a lesbian up in the Bay area are REAL, to say nothing of the millions of people who anonymously tried to forcibly divorce thousands of gay couples: Gay lives are directly and negatively affected any day of the week.

So if the Prop. 8 supporters are SO good with the consequences of their &#039;the people have spoken&#039; majority vote, then they can damn well own it and defend it in court before the people too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m so OVER this &#8216;the gays are going to be MEAN to us! The gays are intimidating us and we fear for our safety!&#8217;</p>
<p> Oh BULLSH*T!</p>
<p>  The exaggeration and claims are way beyond outrageous, they are in the realm of delusion now. Yeah, right&#8230;running for cover and going into hiding as if they suddenly got dropped into gay &#8220;Zombieland.&#8221;</p>
<p>    The execution of Lawrence King, the assault on the Susuzchanay brothers or the gang rape of a lesbian up in the Bay area are REAL, to say nothing of the millions of people who anonymously tried to forcibly divorce thousands of gay couples: Gay lives are directly and negatively affected any day of the week.</p>
<p>So if the Prop. 8 supporters are SO good with the consequences of their &#8216;the people have spoken&#8217; majority vote, then they can damn well own it and defend it in court before the people too!</p>
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