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	<title>Comments on: Scott Lively Endorses &#8220;Revised&#8221; Ugandan Bill. Do Exodus And Cohen?</title>
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		<title>By: World Net Daily selling discredited book about gays and Nazis &#124; La Voz Del Centro</title>
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		<dc:creator>World Net Daily selling discredited book about gays and Nazis &#124; La Voz Del Centro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2010 17:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and “the lesser of two evils,” although he claims to oppose the death penalty and has falsely claimed on multiple occasions that the death penalty has been removed from the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: VANESSA</title>
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		<dc:creator>VANESSA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 05:53:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you are disgusting you are promoting hatred and  intolerance for people who are &quot;different &quot;or &quot;wrong&quot;  according to your opinions. Why can&#039;t you leave people alone who are in love and actually focus on things that are important like teaching others about gods love or how should we spread gods message by living by example.  Without hate, without lies, without targeting others while your own life has sin, like in the bible for which who has committed no sin may he/she cast the first stone. You as a Christian should love everyone because every single human being is a child of god and should be treated with love and kindness. You are entitled to your own opinions,beliefs, and choices. I&#039;ve grown up  in a Christian family as well as went to a 
Christian school for awhile as well as took bible class. There are many ways to interpret the bible but really you need to just do what god would want and the main message is to teach love just as Jesus did no matter how much hate, intolerance and just a lack of willing to accept something different. If i would actually see a Christian live a life like they are supposed to, i am not saying that u have to be perfect but whenever u sin you pray and ask for forgiveness but live a life of love and understanding people will actually notice how you stand out in a world full of hate and fakeness. No more talking and pointing out others faults or things that you may not like while you are living a life of lies.  There are more important messages out there to focus on like the way young people are living the lack of respect, the way this generation is going down the wrong path because of drugs, violence, sex, and just a lack of interest to better themselves and thinking they should act like what the media portrays or what they see from bad examples . BY Trying to protay themselves as &quot;older&quot; by cursing acting like a criminal trying to just make themselves go down a road that will lead no where.  So you need to focus on that and even more things. So you guys are just a big disappointment to me and a horrible example of what being Christian is supposed to be. I hope you realize that you are spreading hate and sending the opposite message that god wants you to send. This just makes me sick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you are disgusting you are promoting hatred and  intolerance for people who are &#8220;different &#8220;or &#8220;wrong&#8221;  according to your opinions. Why can&#8217;t you leave people alone who are in love and actually focus on things that are important like teaching others about gods love or how should we spread gods message by living by example.  Without hate, without lies, without targeting others while your own life has sin, like in the bible for which who has committed no sin may he/she cast the first stone. You as a Christian should love everyone because every single human being is a child of god and should be treated with love and kindness. You are entitled to your own opinions,beliefs, and choices. I&#8217;ve grown up  in a Christian family as well as went to a<br />
Christian school for awhile as well as took bible class. There are many ways to interpret the bible but really you need to just do what god would want and the main message is to teach love just as Jesus did no matter how much hate, intolerance and just a lack of willing to accept something different. If i would actually see a Christian live a life like they are supposed to, i am not saying that u have to be perfect but whenever u sin you pray and ask for forgiveness but live a life of love and understanding people will actually notice how you stand out in a world full of hate and fakeness. No more talking and pointing out others faults or things that you may not like while you are living a life of lies.  There are more important messages out there to focus on like the way young people are living the lack of respect, the way this generation is going down the wrong path because of drugs, violence, sex, and just a lack of interest to better themselves and thinking they should act like what the media portrays or what they see from bad examples . BY Trying to protay themselves as &#8220;older&#8221; by cursing acting like a criminal trying to just make themselves go down a road that will lead no where.  So you need to focus on that and even more things. So you guys are just a big disappointment to me and a horrible example of what being Christian is supposed to be. I hope you realize that you are spreading hate and sending the opposite message that god wants you to send. This just makes me sick.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 13:14:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;To date, none of them have shown the integrity, the guts, nor the authentic witness of the Christian faith that they claim to hold so dear. &quot;


Amen. I continue to pray for them. They are very lost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;To date, none of them have shown the integrity, the guts, nor the authentic witness of the Christian faith that they claim to hold so dear. &#8221;</p>
<p>Amen. I continue to pray for them. They are very lost.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynn David</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynn David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 10:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And Bahati himself either doesn&#039;t know what is in the bill or is lying about it to other he was recently quoted in an &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.afrik.com/article16753.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;article on Afik.com&lt;/a&gt;:
&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;The pro-gays have made the world believe that whoever will be found guilty of getting involved in homosexuality will be sentenced to death. No. &lt;b&gt;Only when an adult forces a child or someone under the age of 18 into homosexuality, that is where death penalty should apply,&quot; he continued.&lt;/b&gt;

According to him, he has the support of most Members of Parliament and they are collectively pushing on the bill. He said he can not withdraw the bill as some government officials are considering to request him to do.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Too bad he doesn&#039;t know the difference between pederasty and homosexuality though.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Bahati himself either doesn&#8217;t know what is in the bill or is lying about it to other he was recently quoted in an <a href="http://en.afrik.com/article16753.html" rel="nofollow">article on Afik.com</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;The pro-gays have made the world believe that whoever will be found guilty of getting involved in homosexuality will be sentenced to death. No. <b>Only when an adult forces a child or someone under the age of 18 into homosexuality, that is where death penalty should apply,&#8221; he continued.</b></p>
<p>According to him, he has the support of most Members of Parliament and they are collectively pushing on the bill. He said he can not withdraw the bill as some government officials are considering to request him to do.</p></blockquote>
<p>Too bad he doesn&#8217;t know the difference between pederasty and homosexuality though.<br />
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		<title>By: Lynn David</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynn David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 10:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exodus removed the link to Lively&#039;s article I think on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/03/09/9591&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;8/9 March 2009&lt;/a&gt;.  If you search through Dr Throckmorton&#039;s blog I think... ok, I found it on 25 June 2009 Leadership U took the Lively article down after Throckmorton published a series of blog posts critical of Lively&#039;s revisionist history.  See:  &lt;a href=&quot;http://wthrockmorton.com/2009/06/25/leadership-university-removes-homosexuality-and-the-nazi-party-article/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Leadership Universiity Removes Homosexuality and the Nazi Party Article&lt;/a&gt;.   So I would not necessarily fault Exodus; although I find their statement on that page to have be &quot;funny.&quot;   But Exodus has spoken out in their letter with now Schmierer as a signatory that they are against any sort of criminalization of homosexuality.  Though I agree that it was somewhat vague and tended more to a &#039;don&#039;t make the ministries criminal&#039; side. 

But as concerns Schmierer/Exodus/Lively, my opinion has always been that Schmierer is the one who put the link to Lively&#039;s work on Exodus.  I keep going back to that &lt;a href=&quot;http://forums.ski.com.au/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&amp;Number=607339&amp;page=3&amp;fpart=6&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;fellow&#039;s impression of what Schmierer related to him over the Atlantic&lt;/a&gt;, &#039;the Nazis were all gay.&#039; And &#039;Africa is a big focus for them – it’s religious and predominantly anti-gay, and Exodus wants to keep it that way.&#039;

Schmierer and Lively have had ties through the WCF - World Congress of Families.  And I wonder why the WCF did not come to Lively&#039;s aid, although perhaps they think Lively didn&#039;t need it.   Or could it be they actually see the harm Lively did in Uganda.  Ok... that made me laugh.... but not in  a good way.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exodus removed the link to Lively&#8217;s article I think on <a href="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/03/09/9591" rel="nofollow" class="articleLink">8/9 March 2009</a>.  If you search through Dr Throckmorton&#8217;s blog I think&#8230; ok, I found it on 25 June 2009 Leadership U took the Lively article down after Throckmorton published a series of blog posts critical of Lively&#8217;s revisionist history.  See:  <a href="http://wthrockmorton.com/2009/06/25/leadership-university-removes-homosexuality-and-the-nazi-party-article/" rel="nofollow">Leadership Universiity Removes Homosexuality and the Nazi Party Article</a>.   So I would not necessarily fault Exodus; although I find their statement on that page to have be &#8220;funny.&#8221;   But Exodus has spoken out in their letter with now Schmierer as a signatory that they are against any sort of criminalization of homosexuality.  Though I agree that it was somewhat vague and tended more to a &#8216;don&#8217;t make the ministries criminal&#8217; side. </p>
<p>But as concerns Schmierer/Exodus/Lively, my opinion has always been that Schmierer is the one who put the link to Lively&#8217;s work on Exodus.  I keep going back to that <a href="http://forums.ski.com.au/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&amp;Number=607339&amp;page=3&amp;fpart=6" rel="nofollow">fellow&#8217;s impression of what Schmierer related to him over the Atlantic</a>, &#8216;the Nazis were all gay.&#8217; And &#8216;Africa is a big focus for them – it’s religious and predominantly anti-gay, and Exodus wants to keep it that way.&#8217;</p>
<p>Schmierer and Lively have had ties through the WCF &#8211; World Congress of Families.  And I wonder why the WCF did not come to Lively&#8217;s aid, although perhaps they think Lively didn&#8217;t need it.   Or could it be they actually see the harm Lively did in Uganda.  Ok&#8230; that made me laugh&#8230;. but not in  a good way.<br />
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