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	<title>Comments on: Why did CNSNews.com Falsify Uganda&#8217;s Anti-Homosexuality Bill?</title>
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		<title>By: Chris McCoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris McCoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 18:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karen Shuberg said:
&lt;blockquote&gt;But Baldwin did not say what specific punishment was warranted, particularly in the country of Uganda, which currently is considering legislation that would impose the death penalty on any HIV-positive person who willfully and knowingly engages in homosexual relations.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Saying people should be punished for committing a crime, but not specifying what the specific punishment should be is hardly scandalous.

Now, taking that statement, and then &lt;b&gt;implying&lt;/b&gt; that because she didn&#039;t say the death penalty isn&#039;t ok - that it means she must think it &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; ok. We have a word for that: Libel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karen Shuberg said:</p>
<blockquote><p>But Baldwin did not say what specific punishment was warranted, particularly in the country of Uganda, which currently is considering legislation that would impose the death penalty on any HIV-positive person who willfully and knowingly engages in homosexual relations.</p></blockquote>
<p>Saying people should be punished for committing a crime, but not specifying what the specific punishment should be is hardly scandalous.</p>
<p>Now, taking that statement, and then <b>implying</b> that because she didn&#8217;t say the death penalty isn&#8217;t ok &#8211; that it means she must think it <i>is</i> ok. We have a word for that: Libel.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Burroway</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Burroway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 17:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not criticizing Baldwin&#039;s opinions. In fact, I should have pointed out that the reporter mischaracterized Baldwin&#039;s statement. I&#039;ll update it to reflect that. 

My criticism is with Schuberg.

Those snazzy vertical lines are blockquotes. If you know HTML, use the &lt;blockquote&gt; ... &lt;/blockquote&gt; tag.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not criticizing Baldwin&#8217;s opinions. In fact, I should have pointed out that the reporter mischaracterized Baldwin&#8217;s statement. I&#8217;ll update it to reflect that. </p>
<p>My criticism is with Schuberg.</p>
<p>Those snazzy vertical lines are blockquotes. If you know HTML, use the &lt;blockquote&gt; &#8230; &lt;/blockquote&gt; tag.</p>
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		<title>By: trooperz</title>
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		<dc:creator>trooperz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 17:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim,

I&#039;m a little confused what you&#039;re getting at.

While Baldwin&#039;s opinions may be a little oversimplified, i.e. few straight people think that an hiv negative person would want to be in a relationship with someone who isn&#039;t, I think she largely supports the view of the BoxTurtle.

Take this quote from the article: &quot;All of the participants at the hearing were critical of the proposed law.  In her opening statement, Representative Baldwin described the Anti-Homosexuality Act of 2009 as “an extreme and hateful attempt to make people criminals not because of anything they do – but because of who they are and who they love.”&quot;

She&#039;s against the Uganda Bill.

More reasonably, several U.S. states have laws against hiv exposure. While few with the disease are some kind of monster, having a law protecting against those who are is reasonable.

Again, she assumes no one who has sex with a positive person does so willingly, but other than her naivety on  that part, I fail to see what she does wrong.

p.s. How do you get those
schnazzy vertical lines 
when using quotes? They&#039;re
handy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a little confused what you&#8217;re getting at.</p>
<p>While Baldwin&#8217;s opinions may be a little oversimplified, i.e. few straight people think that an hiv negative person would want to be in a relationship with someone who isn&#8217;t, I think she largely supports the view of the BoxTurtle.</p>
<p>Take this quote from the article: &#8220;All of the participants at the hearing were critical of the proposed law.  In her opening statement, Representative Baldwin described the Anti-Homosexuality Act of 2009 as “an extreme and hateful attempt to make people criminals not because of anything they do – but because of who they are and who they love.”&#8221;</p>
<p>She&#8217;s against the Uganda Bill.</p>
<p>More reasonably, several U.S. states have laws against hiv exposure. While few with the disease are some kind of monster, having a law protecting against those who are is reasonable.</p>
<p>Again, she assumes no one who has sex with a positive person does so willingly, but other than her naivety on  that part, I fail to see what she does wrong.</p>
<p>p.s. How do you get those<br />
schnazzy vertical lines<br />
when using quotes? They&#8217;re<br />
handy.</p>
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