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	<title>Comments on: DADT repeal process started</title>
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		<title>By: CPT_Doom</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2010/01/28/19924/comment-page-1#comment-61003</link>
		<dc:creator>CPT_Doom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 16:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Steps. What steps did the take to implement it?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Actually, I can see a whole host of steps they&#039;ll need to take. When Truman signed his Executive Order, the military had been experimenting formally with racial integration since about 1944. The military had experience with what kinds of issues they would face with individual military members and could proactively address those. 

With DADT, there have been scattered instances of openly gay/lesbian service members serving, typically during the time it took to hold hearings and process their discharges, but nothing formal. The military will have to creating training programs, set procedures for dealing with homophobic commanders, determine how to deal with family members when the service member cannot get legally married - there&#039;s a lot to deal with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Steps. What steps did the take to implement it?</p></blockquote>
<p>Actually, I can see a whole host of steps they&#8217;ll need to take. When Truman signed his Executive Order, the military had been experimenting formally with racial integration since about 1944. The military had experience with what kinds of issues they would face with individual military members and could proactively address those. </p>
<p>With DADT, there have been scattered instances of openly gay/lesbian service members serving, typically during the time it took to hold hearings and process their discharges, but nothing formal. The military will have to creating training programs, set procedures for dealing with homophobic commanders, determine how to deal with family members when the service member cannot get legally married &#8211; there&#8217;s a lot to deal with.</p>
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		<title>By: Edwin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 05:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama&#039;s acting just like Clinton.  Scared to put his foot down and say to do it the way I want it done.  Clinton
should never of agreed to this stupid law.  How many years have GAY&#039;S been severing their country.  Probably since 
this country was formed.  Democrats aren&#039;t getting any of my money till I see some of our natural rights given to us</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama&#8217;s acting just like Clinton.  Scared to put his foot down and say to do it the way I want it done.  Clinton<br />
should never of agreed to this stupid law.  How many years have GAY&#8217;S been severing their country.  Probably since<br />
this country was formed.  Democrats aren&#8217;t getting any of my money till I see some of our natural rights given to us</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 05:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unlike in Truman&#039;s case, segregation was not a U.S. Law.  It was a policy.  Thanks to the debacle in 1992, DADT is a LAW.  Unless you think the President is above the law (thank you Mr. Nixon), the only power Obama has is to make enforcement difficult or to do something via a stop-loss.  He CANNOT order a law to be overturned.

I think this is very promising news.  Rather than have Congress initiate--which is how we ended up with this mess in the first place--let the Pentagon propose it and the yappers in Congress will be neutered since they would never ever -- GASP! -- disagree with the generals and admirals.  I hope that Powell and the other retired flag officers who have voiced their concerns about the effectiveness of DADT (AFTER retiring) will help keep the Cons from turning back the tide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unlike in Truman&#8217;s case, segregation was not a U.S. Law.  It was a policy.  Thanks to the debacle in 1992, DADT is a LAW.  Unless you think the President is above the law (thank you Mr. Nixon), the only power Obama has is to make enforcement difficult or to do something via a stop-loss.  He CANNOT order a law to be overturned.</p>
<p>I think this is very promising news.  Rather than have Congress initiate&#8211;which is how we ended up with this mess in the first place&#8211;let the Pentagon propose it and the yappers in Congress will be neutered since they would never ever &#8212; GASP! &#8212; disagree with the generals and admirals.  I hope that Powell and the other retired flag officers who have voiced their concerns about the effectiveness of DADT (AFTER retiring) will help keep the Cons from turning back the tide.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 03:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CNN&#039;s got a good story on this here:
http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/01/28/gates.military.gay/index.html?hpt=T2

Interesting to see that &quot;humanely implement&quot; phrase pop up once again. Once again, trust but verify on this.

Meanwhile, if Obama&#039;s serious about this, he should make like Truman and tell his generals, &quot;This is what I&#039;m doing as your CinC. If you don&#039;t like it, I&#039;ll expect your resignation letter on my desk by 0800.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CNN&#8217;s got a good story on this here:<br />
<a href="http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/01/28/gates.military.gay/index.html?hpt=T2" rel="nofollow">http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/01/28/gates.military.gay/index.html?hpt=T2</a></p>
<p>Interesting to see that &#8220;humanely implement&#8221; phrase pop up once again. Once again, trust but verify on this.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, if Obama&#8217;s serious about this, he should make like Truman and tell his generals, &#8220;This is what I&#8217;m doing as your CinC. If you don&#8217;t like it, I&#8217;ll expect your resignation letter on my desk by 0800.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 00:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steps.  What steps did the take to implement it? How about taking a black magic marker and lining through those steps and write, &quot;Deleted&quot;, just like I used to do as a squadron clerk with regulations in Air Force manuals?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steps.  What steps did the take to implement it? How about taking a black magic marker and lining through those steps and write, &#8220;Deleted&#8221;, just like I used to do as a squadron clerk with regulations in Air Force manuals?</p>
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		<title>By: Ben in Oakland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben in Oakland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 23:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What strategy do they need?

Repeal the ban and apologize.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What strategy do they need?</p>
<p>Repeal the ban and apologize.</p>
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