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	<title>Comments on: Michigan Christians sue because the Matthew Shepherd Act restricts their rights.  They must want to violently attack gay people</title>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2012 06:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is the weirdest fortune cookie message I have ever seen.</description>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2010/02/05/20146/comment-page-1#comment-76718</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 20:14:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric,

Perhaps it would be useful to read my &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2010/04/02/21575&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;commentary&lt;/a&gt; about Christians who mean well but just don&#039;t get it.  A relevant portion is:

&lt;blockquote&gt;But what these Christians fail to see is that we do not see our sexual orientation in terms of behavior. We are not gay because we do gay things. We are gay because we are internally, inherently drawn in matters of romantic, emotional, sexual and spiritual attraction to persons of the same sex.

The sins that this tolerant Christian sees God forgive in his life are based on his own behaviors; his failings are his own actions. But the sins that he sees God forgive in our lives are not behavioral, but inherent; our failings are intrinsic and will be present no matter what we do.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric,</p>
<p>Perhaps it would be useful to read my <a href="http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2010/04/02/21575" rel="nofollow" class="articleLink">commentary</a> about Christians who mean well but just don&#8217;t get it.  A relevant portion is:</p>
<blockquote><p>But what these Christians fail to see is that we do not see our sexual orientation in terms of behavior. We are not gay because we do gay things. We are gay because we are internally, inherently drawn in matters of romantic, emotional, sexual and spiritual attraction to persons of the same sex.</p>
<p>The sins that this tolerant Christian sees God forgive in his life are based on his own behaviors; his failings are his own actions. But the sins that he sees God forgive in our lives are not behavioral, but inherent; our failings are intrinsic and will be present no matter what we do.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Priya Lynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Priya Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 15:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric, how dare you compare gayness to lying and cheating?!  You can call gayness a sin all you want, but it is not a wrongdoing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric, how dare you compare gayness to lying and cheating?!  You can call gayness a sin all you want, but it is not a wrongdoing.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Rush</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Rush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 13:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric, please stop hiding behind fake humility and the &quot;we are all sinners&quot; pretense while coming here specifically to remind homosexuals that they &quot;come short of the glory of God.&quot; That can still be psychological violence for some people who have not yet escaped from the shackles of religious superstition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric, please stop hiding behind fake humility and the &#8220;we are all sinners&#8221; pretense while coming here specifically to remind homosexuals that they &#8220;come short of the glory of God.&#8221; That can still be psychological violence for some people who have not yet escaped from the shackles of religious superstition.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric M Stokes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric M Stokes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 01:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am truly sorry, as a Christian, that some Christians have created a perception that Christians wish to hurt or kill homosexuals.  Scripture says of all people that all are sinners, not only those of a particular sexual oerientation.  Christ came, in his own words, &quot;to seek and to save that which was lost&quot;.  While Romans 1 and other passages say that homosexuality is a sin, we are all sinners -- we have all &quot;come short of the glory of God&quot; by lying, or cheating, or having straight sex outside marriage, or some other sin.  Christ does not love homosexuality, but He does love homosexuals and so should all Christians.  Christians and gays all should have the right to free speech, not to hurt anyone physicaaly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am truly sorry, as a Christian, that some Christians have created a perception that Christians wish to hurt or kill homosexuals.  Scripture says of all people that all are sinners, not only those of a particular sexual oerientation.  Christ came, in his own words, &#8220;to seek and to save that which was lost&#8221;.  While Romans 1 and other passages say that homosexuality is a sin, we are all sinners &#8212; we have all &#8220;come short of the glory of God&#8221; by lying, or cheating, or having straight sex outside marriage, or some other sin.  Christ does not love homosexuality, but He does love homosexuals and so should all Christians.  Christians and gays all should have the right to free speech, not to hurt anyone physicaaly.</p>
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		<title>By: Priya Lynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Priya Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 00:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eshto, if you&#039;re suggesting they&#039;re doing this because they really do want to violently attack gays and lesbians and to unabashedly fight for the right to do so I find that highly unlikely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eshto, if you&#8217;re suggesting they&#8217;re doing this because they really do want to violently attack gays and lesbians and to unabashedly fight for the right to do so I find that highly unlikely.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne Besen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne Besen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 00:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Until Coe gets off his a** and films a Warren-like video, than he supports the bill 100-percent, as far as I&#039;m concerned. 

It is great that Warren T. asked and he should be commended. But, Warren is not the New York Times, ABC News or even YouTube. 

We need a clear public statement and genuine transparency. Not a clandestine back-room conversation that allegedly took place. A private assurance is essentially meaningless and will do little to thwart the bill in Uganda. 

Heck, even Obama and Clinton made a public statement. Is Mr. Coe so self-important and his ego so enormous, that he thinks he&#039;s better than the President and Secretary of State?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Until Coe gets off his a** and films a Warren-like video, than he supports the bill 100-percent, as far as I&#8217;m concerned. </p>
<p>It is great that Warren T. asked and he should be commended. But, Warren is not the New York Times, ABC News or even YouTube. </p>
<p>We need a clear public statement and genuine transparency. Not a clandestine back-room conversation that allegedly took place. A private assurance is essentially meaningless and will do little to thwart the bill in Uganda. </p>
<p>Heck, even Obama and Clinton made a public statement. Is Mr. Coe so self-important and his ego so enormous, that he thinks he&#8217;s better than the President and Secretary of State?</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 06:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And maybe they&#039;re hucksters, Eshto.  Either way your comment really doesn&#039;t say much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And maybe they&#8217;re hucksters, Eshto.  Either way your comment really doesn&#8217;t say much.</p>
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		<title>By: Eshto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eshto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 01:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just skimming these comments... looks like some of you can&#039;t comprehend why they would do this. Some of you think it must be a ruse. They must have some kind of ulterior motive, right? Maybe it&#039;s just a publicity stunt for fundraising? Religion must just be a &quot;cloak&quot; they wrap themselves up in to hide their real motivations.

Well consider this please: maybe the religion itself really is the source of their hatred and they are being completely sincere.

Maybe they just read the Bible. You know, the Bible - that book that condemns homosexuality and says gay people should be put to death. Maybe that&#039;s where they got their ideas from?

Just a thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just skimming these comments&#8230; looks like some of you can&#8217;t comprehend why they would do this. Some of you think it must be a ruse. They must have some kind of ulterior motive, right? Maybe it&#8217;s just a publicity stunt for fundraising? Religion must just be a &#8220;cloak&#8221; they wrap themselves up in to hide their real motivations.</p>
<p>Well consider this please: maybe the religion itself really is the source of their hatred and they are being completely sincere.</p>
<p>Maybe they just read the Bible. You know, the Bible &#8211; that book that condemns homosexuality and says gay people should be put to death. Maybe that&#8217;s where they got their ideas from?</p>
<p>Just a thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Ignorace(Politics+Religion) = Exasperation. &#171; et al.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ignorace(Politics+Religion) = Exasperation. &#171; et al.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 19:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] only reason these people could possibly still have a reason for being against this act, as one blogger put it, &#8220;is that these four Christians wish to plan for, conspire to commit, or commit an act [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] only reason these people could possibly still have a reason for being against this act, as one blogger put it, &#8220;is that these four Christians wish to plan for, conspire to commit, or commit an act [...]</p>
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