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	<title>Comments on: Miss Beverly Hills thinks gay people should &#8220;surely be put to death&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Your Daily Dose Of Painfully Bad Video</title>
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		<dc:creator>Your Daily Dose Of Painfully Bad Video</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 19:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Ashley, aka Miss Beverly Hills 2010.  You see, the shit hit the fan a while back when Miss Ashley told Fox News: “The Bible says that marriage is between a man and a woman. In Leviticus it says, ‘If man lies [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Ashley, aka Miss Beverly Hills 2010.  You see, the shit hit the fan a while back when Miss Ashley told Fox News: “The Bible says that marriage is between a man and a woman. In Leviticus it says, ‘If man lies [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 00:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that the City of Beverly Hills has 1) DISAVOWED her as a &quot;fraud&quot; since the City has NO association with ANY contests and, 2) reported that she doesn&#039;t even live in Beverly Hills (Pasadena), Ms. Ashley is rendered speechless.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2010/02/beverly-hills-disavows-beauty-contestant-and-her-comments-on-samesex-marriage.html

She cherry-picked the bible and in doing so ignored at least one of the Ten Commandments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that the City of Beverly Hills has 1) DISAVOWED her as a &#8220;fraud&#8221; since the City has NO association with ANY contests and, 2) reported that she doesn&#8217;t even live in Beverly Hills (Pasadena), Ms. Ashley is rendered speechless.</p>
<p><a href="http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2010/02/beverly-hills-disavows-beauty-contestant-and-her-comments-on-samesex-marriage.html" rel="nofollow">http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2010/02/beverly-hills-disavows-beauty-contestant-and-her-comments-on-samesex-marriage.html</a></p>
<p>She cherry-picked the bible and in doing so ignored at least one of the Ten Commandments.</p>
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		<title>By: Mortanius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mortanius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 12:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bible said &quot;and Judas hung himself&quot;, oh it also like totally says &quot;go therefore and do likewise&quot;.  Well I guess the Bible is advocating Suicide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bible said &#8220;and Judas hung himself&#8221;, oh it also like totally says &#8220;go therefore and do likewise&#8221;.  Well I guess the Bible is advocating Suicide.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob in San diego</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob in San diego</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 04:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yoda once said that there are always 2, a master and an apprentice. This young padawan is starting to turn to the dark side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yoda once said that there are always 2, a master and an apprentice. This young padawan is starting to turn to the dark side.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard W. Fitch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard W. Fitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 04:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan - Countryman is an excellent resource. Also a book by Daniel Helminiak, &lt;i&gt;What the Bible Really Says About Homosexuality&lt;/i&gt;, covers all the major &#039;clobber&#039; passages of the Bible with linguistic and cultural/religious background for there inapplicability to consensual same-sex relations. The passage in Lev. 18:22 is especially problematic; even OT Hebrew scholars are not in agreement of an exact translation, thinking that a portion of the text may have be lost in the course of transmission. What they do agree upon is that it is a part of the Holiness or Purity Code which was meant to keep the Jewish people distinct from the &#039;pagans&#039; of the land and that it is primarily addressing idolatry and not &#039;gay sex&#039; in any modern sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan &#8211; Countryman is an excellent resource. Also a book by Daniel Helminiak, <i>What the Bible Really Says About Homosexuality</i>, covers all the major &#8216;clobber&#8217; passages of the Bible with linguistic and cultural/religious background for there inapplicability to consensual same-sex relations. The passage in Lev. 18:22 is especially problematic; even OT Hebrew scholars are not in agreement of an exact translation, thinking that a portion of the text may have be lost in the course of transmission. What they do agree upon is that it is a part of the Holiness or Purity Code which was meant to keep the Jewish people distinct from the &#8216;pagans&#8217; of the land and that it is primarily addressing idolatry and not &#8216;gay sex&#8217; in any modern sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Frijondi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frijondi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 03:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see the abomination known as tapered jeans has come back to plague this sinful land.

That aside, it would be interesting to know where she goes to church, and how many other young people attend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see the abomination known as tapered jeans has come back to plague this sinful land.</p>
<p>That aside, it would be interesting to know where she goes to church, and how many other young people attend.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 03:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She&#039;s an airhead trying to earn a cookie.
I can&#039;t even get angry at someone this stupid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She&#8217;s an airhead trying to earn a cookie.<br />
I can&#8217;t even get angry at someone this stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 02:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most biblical scholars believe that those Levitical verses didn&#039;t refer to gay sex in general, but to a specific form of it, probably anal intercourse. The addition of &quot;as with a woman&quot; suggests that more is happening; general prohibitions don&#039;t contain such a phrase. More importantly, the Hebrew toevah, which is often translated abomination, didn&#039;t imply a moral wrong. 

L. William Countryman&#039;s book Dirt, Greed, and Sex: Sexual Ethics in the New Testament&quot; (2007 edition) is the best resource I know on these issues. I think it would be very difficult to read this whole book and still think that the Bible condemns homosexuality.

And yeah, Leviticus firmly prohibits a ton of things that Miss Pop Tarts probably does, like wearing clothes of mixed fabrics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most biblical scholars believe that those Levitical verses didn&#8217;t refer to gay sex in general, but to a specific form of it, probably anal intercourse. The addition of &#8220;as with a woman&#8221; suggests that more is happening; general prohibitions don&#8217;t contain such a phrase. More importantly, the Hebrew toevah, which is often translated abomination, didn&#8217;t imply a moral wrong. </p>
<p>L. William Countryman&#8217;s book Dirt, Greed, and Sex: Sexual Ethics in the New Testament&#8221; (2007 edition) is the best resource I know on these issues. I think it would be very difficult to read this whole book and still think that the Bible condemns homosexuality.</p>
<p>And yeah, Leviticus firmly prohibits a ton of things that Miss Pop Tarts probably does, like wearing clothes of mixed fabrics.</p>
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		<title>By: bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 02:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She will only get her minute of fame if the gay press reports on it, so why don&#039;t you just ignore such fools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She will only get her minute of fame if the gay press reports on it, so why don&#8217;t you just ignore such fools.</p>
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		<title>By: AJD</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 01:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, the Miss California USA pageant must have a worse recruiting shortage than the Army if she made the cut...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, the Miss California USA pageant must have a worse recruiting shortage than the Army if she made the cut&#8230;</p>
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