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	<title>Comments on: Beverly Hills condemns &#8220;Miss Beverly Hills&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Nevada Blue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nevada Blue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 19:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I generally hate derogatory comments on appearances (if you don&#039;t have to f*ck them, who cares).  But I make exception for beauty contestants.  I&#039;m just doing what they ask their audience to do.  

I think beauty contests are rot, but the people in them take them very seriously, and they judge on beauty, grace and poise.  I bet if you asked anyone in the industry they&#039;d tell you that class plays a big factor.  All looks aside, there is no way that woman is going to win anything now.  She displayed an incredible lack of class.  Not just her tacky clothes, not just the stupid sh!t that fell from her mouth, not just because this came out in an interview with Pop Tart (talk about class), but also her willingness to misrepresent herself (whether or not abiding by the rules of the contest).  And I bet there will be a change of rules for the contest very soon, though a spokesman said no changes planned.

Were some of Tim&#039;s remarks classist.  Yes they were, in my opinion.  But to assume its classist in a sense of wealth, I just don&#039;t buy at all.  I usually assume there is money behind any contestant because its needed to win these days.  But even if I&#039;m wrong, I can assure you that poor women (and I am one) would not take kindly to being put in the same class as Ashley Lauren.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I generally hate derogatory comments on appearances (if you don&#8217;t have to f*ck them, who cares).  But I make exception for beauty contestants.  I&#8217;m just doing what they ask their audience to do.  </p>
<p>I think beauty contests are rot, but the people in them take them very seriously, and they judge on beauty, grace and poise.  I bet if you asked anyone in the industry they&#8217;d tell you that class plays a big factor.  All looks aside, there is no way that woman is going to win anything now.  She displayed an incredible lack of class.  Not just her tacky clothes, not just the stupid sh!t that fell from her mouth, not just because this came out in an interview with Pop Tart (talk about class), but also her willingness to misrepresent herself (whether or not abiding by the rules of the contest).  And I bet there will be a change of rules for the contest very soon, though a spokesman said no changes planned.</p>
<p>Were some of Tim&#8217;s remarks classist.  Yes they were, in my opinion.  But to assume its classist in a sense of wealth, I just don&#8217;t buy at all.  I usually assume there is money behind any contestant because its needed to win these days.  But even if I&#8217;m wrong, I can assure you that poor women (and I am one) would not take kindly to being put in the same class as Ashley Lauren.</p>
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		<title>By: William</title>
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		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 17:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeans, or trousers of any kind, are properly a male garment.

According to Deuteronomy 22:5, a woman wearing men’s clothes is an abomination to the Lord.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeans, or trousers of any kind, are properly a male garment.</p>
<p>According to Deuteronomy 22:5, a woman wearing men’s clothes is an abomination to the Lord.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 16:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now, now, folks.

Ms. Ashley wasn&#039;t calling herself Miss Redding or Miss Campbell.  She chose to associate with Beverly Hills.  And let&#039;s not pretend that Beverly Hills doesn&#039;t have a reputation: rich, skinny, flawless makeup, and designer clothes.

She decided that it was on this image that she wanted to be judged.  I merely accomodated.

:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, now, folks.</p>
<p>Ms. Ashley wasn&#8217;t calling herself Miss Redding or Miss Campbell.  She chose to associate with Beverly Hills.  And let&#8217;s not pretend that Beverly Hills doesn&#8217;t have a reputation: rich, skinny, flawless makeup, and designer clothes.</p>
<p>She decided that it was on this image that she wanted to be judged.  I merely accomodated.</p>
<p>:)</p>
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		<title>By: TJMcFisty</title>
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		<dc:creator>TJMcFisty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 14:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In defense of Tim, it&#039;s not mean if it&#039;s true. She is wearing that bad outfit and poorly posing for a promo picture repping Beverly Hills for a beauty pageant. Her looks and her comments are totally fair game. 

This is what happens when you put yourself out there in the spotlight, and Tim should be allowed to be as catty as he damn well wants to be. Gay man. Gay blog. It happens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In defense of Tim, it&#8217;s not mean if it&#8217;s true. She is wearing that bad outfit and poorly posing for a promo picture repping Beverly Hills for a beauty pageant. Her looks and her comments are totally fair game. </p>
<p>This is what happens when you put yourself out there in the spotlight, and Tim should be allowed to be as catty as he damn well wants to be. Gay man. Gay blog. It happens.</p>
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		<title>By: Emily K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emily K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 12:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim, I&#039;d expect such catty remarks about this girl&#039;s appearance from perez hilton, but not you - not from an author representing BTB.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim, I&#8217;d expect such catty remarks about this girl&#8217;s appearance from perez hilton, but not you &#8211; not from an author representing BTB.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Mathis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Mathis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 10:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What do her looks have to do with her opinion? Her opinion is disgusting because of it&#039;s contents, be she beautiful or ugly. I&#039;d love to see less patriarchy on my gay blog, but maybe that&#039;s too much to ask.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do her looks have to do with her opinion? Her opinion is disgusting because of it&#8217;s contents, be she beautiful or ugly. I&#8217;d love to see less patriarchy on my gay blog, but maybe that&#8217;s too much to ask.</p>
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		<title>By: werdna</title>
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		<dc:creator>werdna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 09:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Miss Ashley&#039;s claim to be &quot;Miss Beverly Hills USA&quot;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tmz.com/2010/02/24/miss-beverly-hills-disowned-by-the-city/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;TMZ writes&lt;/a&gt; :


&lt;blockquote&gt;Representatives at the Miss California USA pageant told TMZ that contestants were allowed to choose which area of the state they represented, and as long as they added the letters “USA” to the end of the title, it didn’t have to be approved by the city.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Miss Ashley&#8217;s claim to be &#8220;Miss Beverly Hills USA&#8221;, <a href="http://www.tmz.com/2010/02/24/miss-beverly-hills-disowned-by-the-city/" rel="nofollow">TMZ writes</a> :</p>
<blockquote><p>Representatives at the Miss California USA pageant told TMZ that contestants were allowed to choose which area of the state they represented, and as long as they added the letters “USA” to the end of the title, it didn’t have to be approved by the city.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: CB</title>
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		<dc:creator>CB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 09:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I doubt they can do it, but if they could, it would be funny if the city charged her with misrepresenting the city and slander. In turn, FOX News should be taken to task for another news blunder! Weren&#039;t they all over CBS and Dan Rather when they did a report on GW Bush and his military credentials? While CBS defamed one individual with their report, FOX News did/does it to the LGBT community on a regular basis, and this is just another instance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I doubt they can do it, but if they could, it would be funny if the city charged her with misrepresenting the city and slander. In turn, FOX News should be taken to task for another news blunder! Weren&#8217;t they all over CBS and Dan Rather when they did a report on GW Bush and his military credentials? While CBS defamed one individual with their report, FOX News did/does it to the LGBT community on a regular basis, and this is just another instance.</p>
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		<title>By: werdna</title>
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		<dc:creator>werdna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 09:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>+1 to Harriet M. and Lucrece and others for pointing out the crass and unnecessary elements in this post and some of the comments. 

That aside, is there any reason to believe that Lauren Ashley is for real in any regard? I mean, is this a prank on Fox News (the original source of the interview)? A parody of hypocritical, judgmental beauty queens? My first question on hearing this update was, &quot;which art school does she go to?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>+1 to Harriet M. and Lucrece and others for pointing out the crass and unnecessary elements in this post and some of the comments. </p>
<p>That aside, is there any reason to believe that Lauren Ashley is for real in any regard? I mean, is this a prank on Fox News (the original source of the interview)? A parody of hypocritical, judgmental beauty queens? My first question on hearing this update was, &#8220;which art school does she go to?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 04:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just as the overwhelming majority of the commenters in the post, I did not comment on Miss faux-Beverly Hills&#039; looks or style.  As a gay man, I honestly couldn&#039;t care less.

However, beauty contests are primarily about looks, style and whatever few points you could score from your particular talent and how you answer one or two very short questions.  So, someone entering said beauty contests should expect to be judged at some point on their looks and their style.  In fact, they are literally inviting such judgements.  Just saying...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just as the overwhelming majority of the commenters in the post, I did not comment on Miss faux-Beverly Hills&#8217; looks or style.  As a gay man, I honestly couldn&#8217;t care less.</p>
<p>However, beauty contests are primarily about looks, style and whatever few points you could score from your particular talent and how you answer one or two very short questions.  So, someone entering said beauty contests should expect to be judged at some point on their looks and their style.  In fact, they are literally inviting such judgements.  Just saying&#8230;</p>
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