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	<title>Comments on: Ugandan Religious Leaders, Human Rights Advocates to Petition Against Anti-Gay Bill</title>
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		<title>By: TomChicago</title>
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		<dc:creator>TomChicago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 22:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blaming the Western &quot;imperialists&quot; for the so-called importation of homosexuality to the African continent conveniently ignores the homophile tradition of the African people.  Denying the facts does play very well to those already foaming at the mouth on this subject, but it, well...ignores the facts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blaming the Western &#8220;imperialists&#8221; for the so-called importation of homosexuality to the African continent conveniently ignores the homophile tradition of the African people.  Denying the facts does play very well to those already foaming at the mouth on this subject, but it, well&#8230;ignores the facts.</p>
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		<title>By: TampaZeke</title>
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		<dc:creator>TampaZeke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 16:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James, how sad the ignorance of so many of your people; how ironic, shameful and dangerous the twisted revisionist Ugandan/African history they are being taught by their foreign oppressors.

You sing your beloved national anthem about allegiance to a god that was forced upon you and you sing it proudly in the tongue of those who colonized you, ruled you, literally OWNED you all in the same breath with which you irately denounce the imposition of &quot;Western&quot; values on your country.

You defend your current anti-gay law as &quot;protecting African culture from imported, pro-gay, Western, anti-African influence&quot; all the while ignorant to, or ignoring the fact that it was ENGLAND, a WESTERN, NON-AFRICAN country that IMPOSED this COLONIAL law upon you in the first place, when you had NO law restricting homosexuality before their imposition. 

You claim that Liberty and freedom of expression for UGANDA&#039;s gay people, as it existed before your colonization, is an unwanted import from the West.


You are ignorant about, ignore or have been taught by WESTERNERS to hate the rich, historic, spirituality of Africa and the gods of your ancestors.  You have for centuries been forced to adopt and worship the God of your oppressors and most recently you have become willing, yet unknowing, puppets to American fundamentalist COLONIZATION.  In spite of all of this historical and contemporary fact, you manage to see your oppressors as your liberators and their western, foreign, bigoted, oppressive UN-AFRICAN laws as your Declaration of true Africanism.

The people of Uganda and Kenya are no different that any other oppressed, colonized people in history.  They are submitting to the authority of foreign power, turning their backs on and even becoming hostile to their own history and culture and arts and tradition; replacing them with the values of their colonizers, their conquerors, their masters and demonizing anyone who speaks truth to the travesty.

I weep for you.  I weep for all Ugandans.  I weep for all Africans who are falling victim to these hateful, bigoted, Western, Africa-colonizing wolves.

May God bless Africa with the wisdom to resist the wolves who come to her shores carrying Bibles concealing daggers and crosses laced with poison.

Sinclair Lewis said, &quot;When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross.&quot; 

I dare say the same is true for Uganda and Africa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James, how sad the ignorance of so many of your people; how ironic, shameful and dangerous the twisted revisionist Ugandan/African history they are being taught by their foreign oppressors.</p>
<p>You sing your beloved national anthem about allegiance to a god that was forced upon you and you sing it proudly in the tongue of those who colonized you, ruled you, literally OWNED you all in the same breath with which you irately denounce the imposition of &#8220;Western&#8221; values on your country.</p>
<p>You defend your current anti-gay law as &#8220;protecting African culture from imported, pro-gay, Western, anti-African influence&#8221; all the while ignorant to, or ignoring the fact that it was ENGLAND, a WESTERN, NON-AFRICAN country that IMPOSED this COLONIAL law upon you in the first place, when you had NO law restricting homosexuality before their imposition. </p>
<p>You claim that Liberty and freedom of expression for UGANDA&#8217;s gay people, as it existed before your colonization, is an unwanted import from the West.</p>
<p>You are ignorant about, ignore or have been taught by WESTERNERS to hate the rich, historic, spirituality of Africa and the gods of your ancestors.  You have for centuries been forced to adopt and worship the God of your oppressors and most recently you have become willing, yet unknowing, puppets to American fundamentalist COLONIZATION.  In spite of all of this historical and contemporary fact, you manage to see your oppressors as your liberators and their western, foreign, bigoted, oppressive UN-AFRICAN laws as your Declaration of true Africanism.</p>
<p>The people of Uganda and Kenya are no different that any other oppressed, colonized people in history.  They are submitting to the authority of foreign power, turning their backs on and even becoming hostile to their own history and culture and arts and tradition; replacing them with the values of their colonizers, their conquerors, their masters and demonizing anyone who speaks truth to the travesty.</p>
<p>I weep for you.  I weep for all Ugandans.  I weep for all Africans who are falling victim to these hateful, bigoted, Western, Africa-colonizing wolves.</p>
<p>May God bless Africa with the wisdom to resist the wolves who come to her shores carrying Bibles concealing daggers and crosses laced with poison.</p>
<p>Sinclair Lewis said, &#8220;When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross.&#8221; </p>
<p>I dare say the same is true for Uganda and Africa.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 11:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh Uganda, I love your National Anthem....it begins Oh Uganda may God uphold thee...we lay our future in thy hands........and it goes on and on.

James Onen Fat Boy and the likes, we must stand and say yes every indigenous efforts to fight a vice which is like leprosy. Gideon Byamugisha who for long has eaten a lot of money out of sympathy for his HIV statusmust be reeducated. For long Gideon has misrepresented the nation and we the young generation cant allow such misrepresentation to go on. Fired from the Anglican Church, Sdenyonjo also called Bishop has found solace in homosexuality. I have nothing to write about this worn out man, there are no new developmental thoughts from this ageing &quot;prelate&quot;. I am grateful that we long committed the future of Uganda in the hands of God. That is a done deal.

Speaker Edward Ssekandi&#039;s response to the gay sympathisers was enough to show the world our stand. Collecting more than 400,000 signatures from outside Uganda is no big deal in any way. that does not represent the thoughts of ugandans.

By the way How is Gideon&#039;s moral stand? How did he get HIV/AIDS? Wasn&#039;t it thru infidelity?
Rubaramira, how did he get HIV/AIDS? Wasn&#039;t it thru raping women in the bush and infidelity? Let the truth now flow.

James</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh Uganda, I love your National Anthem&#8230;.it begins Oh Uganda may God uphold thee&#8230;we lay our future in thy hands&#8230;&#8230;..and it goes on and on.</p>
<p>James Onen Fat Boy and the likes, we must stand and say yes every indigenous efforts to fight a vice which is like leprosy. Gideon Byamugisha who for long has eaten a lot of money out of sympathy for his HIV statusmust be reeducated. For long Gideon has misrepresented the nation and we the young generation cant allow such misrepresentation to go on. Fired from the Anglican Church, Sdenyonjo also called Bishop has found solace in homosexuality. I have nothing to write about this worn out man, there are no new developmental thoughts from this ageing &#8220;prelate&#8221;. I am grateful that we long committed the future of Uganda in the hands of God. That is a done deal.</p>
<p>Speaker Edward Ssekandi&#8217;s response to the gay sympathisers was enough to show the world our stand. Collecting more than 400,000 signatures from outside Uganda is no big deal in any way. that does not represent the thoughts of ugandans.</p>
<p>By the way How is Gideon&#8217;s moral stand? How did he get HIV/AIDS? Wasn&#8217;t it thru infidelity?<br />
Rubaramira, how did he get HIV/AIDS? Wasn&#8217;t it thru raping women in the bush and infidelity? Let the truth now flow.</p>
<p>James</p>
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		<title>By: anteros</title>
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		<dc:creator>anteros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 06:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Timothy Kincaid:

&quot;Although there are ways to fool ip tracing...&quot;

That sounds like a reasonable skill to expect of a Ugandan pastor who regularly surfs the net for the latest scat porn and downloads it onto his machine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Timothy Kincaid:</p>
<p>&#8220;Although there are ways to fool ip tracing&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>That sounds like a reasonable skill to expect of a Ugandan pastor who regularly surfs the net for the latest scat porn and downloads it onto his machine.</p>
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		<title>By: RCM</title>
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		<dc:creator>RCM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 23:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul in Canada, &quot;Jesus was asked what was the greatest commandment, he said to love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, mind and soul. And when asked to name the next most important, he said to love thy neighbour as thy self. &quot;

I think some people just don&#039;t understand this bit.  They hold up signs that say &quot;God hates gays&quot;, as if that is actually something the Bible says.  God hates no one.  God doesn&#039;t hate people.  There is no debate to have about who God hates, cause God doesn&#039;t hate people.

That is just my opinion, and if someone reading this reckons there is no god, or that something I said was wrong, they can as far as I am concerned, we are all people, and people come with opinions.  Oh, and God bless every country in the world that has noticed this and thereby not tried to legislate against it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul in Canada, &#8220;Jesus was asked what was the greatest commandment, he said to love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, mind and soul. And when asked to name the next most important, he said to love thy neighbour as thy self. &#8221;</p>
<p>I think some people just don&#8217;t understand this bit.  They hold up signs that say &#8220;God hates gays&#8221;, as if that is actually something the Bible says.  God hates no one.  God doesn&#8217;t hate people.  There is no debate to have about who God hates, cause God doesn&#8217;t hate people.</p>
<p>That is just my opinion, and if someone reading this reckons there is no god, or that something I said was wrong, they can as far as I am concerned, we are all people, and people come with opinions.  Oh, and God bless every country in the world that has noticed this and thereby not tried to legislate against it.</p>
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		<title>By: ----</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 21:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a better idea:

Let&#039;s deprogram all those fanatic Ugandans and turn them into tolerant freethinkers, or at least get them back to animism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a better idea:</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s deprogram all those fanatic Ugandans and turn them into tolerant freethinkers, or at least get them back to animism.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 20:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although there are ways to fool ip tracing, it does not appear that the computer which posted the comment from &quot;Martin Ssempa&quot; is located in Uganda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although there are ways to fool ip tracing, it does not appear that the computer which posted the comment from &#8220;Martin Ssempa&#8221; is located in Uganda.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 20:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Gideon is a shrill for homosexuals.. &quot; Martin Ssempa PhD

It is reasonable to expect a PhD to write with a high degree of accuracy, to reflect the high degree of education that is supposed to be associated with a doctorate degree.

The word shrill, when used as a noun, means a high-pitched, piercing sound, and human beings cannot be sounds, though they often make them.  The word Mr. Ssempa clearly meant, was &quot;shill&quot;, and it is odd at least for a PhD to make such a mistake.

Additionally, ellipses, the punctuation device that indicates a pause or transition, are composed of three periods (or astericks), separated by spaces - not two periods side by side.

These mistakes are more in character with someone who has marginally completed middle school, not the recipient of an advanced degree.

Either the author of the post attributed to &quot;martin ssempa&quot; is a fraud, or the real Mr. Ssempa is the recipient of a severely inferior education.  In either case, it means the aforesaid comments are worthless to rational, educated people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Gideon is a shrill for homosexuals.. &#8221; Martin Ssempa PhD</p>
<p>It is reasonable to expect a PhD to write with a high degree of accuracy, to reflect the high degree of education that is supposed to be associated with a doctorate degree.</p>
<p>The word shrill, when used as a noun, means a high-pitched, piercing sound, and human beings cannot be sounds, though they often make them.  The word Mr. Ssempa clearly meant, was &#8220;shill&#8221;, and it is odd at least for a PhD to make such a mistake.</p>
<p>Additionally, ellipses, the punctuation device that indicates a pause or transition, are composed of three periods (or astericks), separated by spaces &#8211; not two periods side by side.</p>
<p>These mistakes are more in character with someone who has marginally completed middle school, not the recipient of an advanced degree.</p>
<p>Either the author of the post attributed to &#8220;martin ssempa&#8221; is a fraud, or the real Mr. Ssempa is the recipient of a severely inferior education.  In either case, it means the aforesaid comments are worthless to rational, educated people.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul in Canada</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul in Canada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 18:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Jesus was asked what was the greatest commandment, he said to love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, mind and soul. And when asked to name the next most important, he said to love thy neighbour as thy self.
Mr. Ssempa, try re-reading your bible and act like Jesus commanded!
Try a little love instead of the lies and deceipt that have corrupted your heart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Jesus was asked what was the greatest commandment, he said to love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, mind and soul. And when asked to name the next most important, he said to love thy neighbour as thy self.<br />
Mr. Ssempa, try re-reading your bible and act like Jesus commanded!<br />
Try a little love instead of the lies and deceipt that have corrupted your heart.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Rush</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Rush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 18:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, Martin Ssempa:

Have you ever noticed that the nations most accepting of their gay citizens are among the nations ranking highest in every measure of human well-being and prosperity? And have you noticed that the nations treating gays with vile contempt are among the nations ranking lowest in those measures? Even within the United States a similar correlation can be seen (to some degree) among the states.

If the people of Uganda want to improve their lives, they might want to start with a focus on education to reduce their ignorance, illiteracy, superstition, and poverty, rather than scapegoating gays as the solution to their problems. The scapegoating of unpopular minority groups has always been an effective way for people, governments, and religious leaders to deflect responsibility for their own failures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Martin Ssempa:</p>
<p>Have you ever noticed that the nations most accepting of their gay citizens are among the nations ranking highest in every measure of human well-being and prosperity? And have you noticed that the nations treating gays with vile contempt are among the nations ranking lowest in those measures? Even within the United States a similar correlation can be seen (to some degree) among the states.</p>
<p>If the people of Uganda want to improve their lives, they might want to start with a focus on education to reduce their ignorance, illiteracy, superstition, and poverty, rather than scapegoating gays as the solution to their problems. The scapegoating of unpopular minority groups has always been an effective way for people, governments, and religious leaders to deflect responsibility for their own failures.</p>
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