Comments on: State Department Investigating LGBT Treatment In Uganda and Throughout Africa http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2010/03/04/20774 News, analysis and fact-checking of anti-gay rhetoric Sat, 25 May 2013 21:17:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: Priya Lynn http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2010/03/04/20774/comment-page-1#comment-63485 Priya Lynn Thu, 04 Mar 2010 21:06:50 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=20774#comment-63485 Time will tell Fred. I'd still much rather have a government that takes a stand for human rights than one that doesn't even if the outcome is no different. One things for sure, if you you don't oppose these outrages you most certainly will have no effect on them - that's what the Republicans would have given to LGBTs. Time will tell Fred. I’d still much rather have a government that takes a stand for human rights than one that doesn’t even if the outcome is no different. One things for sure, if you you don’t oppose these outrages you most certainly will have no effect on them – that’s what the Republicans would have given to LGBTs.

]]> By: Fred in the UK http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2010/03/04/20774/comment-page-1#comment-63482 Fred in the UK Thu, 04 Mar 2010 20:57:53 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=20774#comment-63482 Just playing Devil's Advocate in reply to Priya Lynn... I have yet to see any real response to the stand taken by the US Government regarding event's in Uganda other than conciliatory noises from President Museveni. The U.S. has many times called for changes in other countries laws, so I agree that President Bush's defence, of his refusal to sign the UN declaration (it wasn't even a resolution), rings hollow. However all UN declarations are by definition no more than purely symbolic. I fear that a Republican Government would be worse in terms of rhetoric on international gay rights but not in terms of actual achievement of change. I hope events to come in Uganda prove me wrong. Just playing Devil’s Advocate in reply to Priya Lynn…

I have yet to see any real response to the stand taken by the US Government regarding event’s in Uganda other than conciliatory noises from President Museveni. The U.S. has many times called for changes in other countries laws, so I agree that President Bush’s defence, of his refusal to sign the UN declaration (it wasn’t even a resolution), rings hollow. However all UN declarations are by definition no more than purely symbolic.

I fear that a Republican Government would be worse in terms of rhetoric on international gay rights but not in terms of actual achievement of change.

I hope events to come in Uganda prove me wrong.

]]> By: Priya Lynn http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2010/03/04/20774/comment-page-1#comment-63476 Priya Lynn Thu, 04 Mar 2010 20:20:53 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=20774#comment-63476 I hadn't heard about that Paul. This evil conservative government greatly distresses me. Unlike in the States they weren't elected to pursue a social conservative agenda and they have no right to push that crap on our country. I hadn’t heard about that Paul. This evil conservative government greatly distresses me. Unlike in the States they weren’t elected to pursue a social conservative agenda and they have no right to push that crap on our country.

]]> By: Paul in Canada http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2010/03/04/20774/comment-page-1#comment-63473 Paul in Canada Thu, 04 Mar 2010 20:16:43 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=20774#comment-63473 How true Priya. Here in Canada our 'right-wing' government is in the midst of denying they struck out a section on gay rights to our newly revised immigrant guide despite evidence through an access to information request that clearly demonstrates the Minister in charge directed the change. http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2010/03/03/kenney-gay-guide003.html Deny, lie, deny you lied, deny, lie... How true Priya. Here in Canada our ‘right-wing’ government is in the midst of denying they struck out a section on gay rights to our newly revised immigrant guide despite evidence through an access to information request that clearly demonstrates the Minister in charge directed the change.
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2010/03/03/kenney-gay-guide003.html

Deny, lie, deny you lied, deny, lie…

]]> By: Priya Lynn http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2010/03/04/20774/comment-page-1#comment-63464 Priya Lynn Thu, 04 Mar 2010 18:36:52 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=20774#comment-63464 Gay Republicans like to claim a Republican governement would have been just as good on LGBT issues as a Democrat one but there's no way a Republican governement would have taken a stand against the abuse of LGBTs in Uganda and Africa. Bush refused to sign the U.N. resolution calling for the decriminalization of gayness claiming it would have limit U.S. freedom to pass laws. If a Republican was in power now they'd be looking the other way at the Uganda/Afric situation and claiming its "none of our business". Gay Republicans like to claim a Republican governement would have been just as good on LGBT issues as a Democrat one but there’s no way a Republican governement would have taken a stand against the abuse of LGBTs in Uganda and Africa. Bush refused to sign the U.N. resolution calling for the decriminalization of gayness claiming it would have limit U.S. freedom to pass laws. If a Republican was in power now they’d be looking the other way at the Uganda/Afric situation and claiming its “none of our business”.

]]> By: werdna http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2010/03/04/20774/comment-page-1#comment-63460 werdna Thu, 04 Mar 2010 17:41:45 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=20774#comment-63460 Of course only time will tell how serious and committed the State Dept. will be on pursuing these issues, but, dang, I'm pleased to read this. Of course only time will tell how serious and committed the State Dept. will be on pursuing these issues, but, dang, I’m pleased to read this.

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