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	<title>Comments on: Catholic Charities and Discrimination</title>
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		<title>By: LucasP</title>
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		<dc:creator>LucasP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 04:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the Catholic Charities wished to promote their agends in agreement with teachings of their &quot;One true faith&quot; then they&#039;d need to expel all Catholics who are divorced without a proper anullment, who use --gasp-- contraception, and who support abortion rights, gay/lesbian rights, or who marry outside the faith. Kick out the adulterers too....

Pretty obvioous isn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the Catholic Charities wished to promote their agends in agreement with teachings of their &#8220;One true faith&#8221; then they&#8217;d need to expel all Catholics who are divorced without a proper anullment, who use &#8211;gasp&#8211; contraception, and who support abortion rights, gay/lesbian rights, or who marry outside the faith. Kick out the adulterers too&#8230;.</p>
<p>Pretty obvioous isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: CPT_Doom</title>
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		<dc:creator>CPT_Doom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 17:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My understanding was that the Church created Catholic Charities explicitly to avoid church/state issues. CC was supposed to be a secular, purely charitable arm of the Church, financed by Catholics but not run by the Church. Mr. O&#039;Malley in Boston proved that understanding completely wrong.

And I know I&#039;m beating a dead horse here, but let&#039;s never forget that neither the MA nor the DC equal marriage laws in any way changed CC&#039;s obligations to act without discrimination towards gays and lesbians. Both MA and DC had anti-discrimination ordinances govering LGBT people for years before these decisions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My understanding was that the Church created Catholic Charities explicitly to avoid church/state issues. CC was supposed to be a secular, purely charitable arm of the Church, financed by Catholics but not run by the Church. Mr. O&#8217;Malley in Boston proved that understanding completely wrong.</p>
<p>And I know I&#8217;m beating a dead horse here, but let&#8217;s never forget that neither the MA nor the DC equal marriage laws in any way changed CC&#8217;s obligations to act without discrimination towards gays and lesbians. Both MA and DC had anti-discrimination ordinances govering LGBT people for years before these decisions.</p>
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		<title>By: cowboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>cowboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 16:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Kincaid,

LDS Family Services primarily help LDS Couples in finding children.  And you are right, the Mormons would rather not have any tax money if it comes with conditions.

I know a few LDS people were pursing their lips a bit when they heard lesbian Utah Legislator Christine Johnson is the surrogate mother for two gay men in Salt Lake City.  That&#039;s one way to get around the adoption restrictions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Kincaid,</p>
<p>LDS Family Services primarily help LDS Couples in finding children.  And you are right, the Mormons would rather not have any tax money if it comes with conditions.</p>
<p>I know a few LDS people were pursing their lips a bit when they heard lesbian Utah Legislator Christine Johnson is the surrogate mother for two gay men in Salt Lake City.  That&#8217;s one way to get around the adoption restrictions.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 04:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More power to the secular adoption agencies for stepping up to the plate and providing services previously offered by the homophobic Catholic Church.  I hope that this issue gets a lot of press as it will embarrass the Catholic Church.  The Catholic Church seems to following the proverbial cutting off of one&#039;s nose to spite the face.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More power to the secular adoption agencies for stepping up to the plate and providing services previously offered by the homophobic Catholic Church.  I hope that this issue gets a lot of press as it will embarrass the Catholic Church.  The Catholic Church seems to following the proverbial cutting off of one&#8217;s nose to spite the face.</p>
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		<title>By: Frijondi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frijondi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 21:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>New bumper sticker --

Discrimination is a privilege, not a right.

Every once in a while I get a call from Catholic Charities, although I&#039;ve asked them a couple times to remove me from their list.  I politely tell them that there are other charities that do the same good works CC does without discriminating against anyone, and that these are the only ones I&#039;m inclined to support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New bumper sticker &#8211;</p>
<p>Discrimination is a privilege, not a right.</p>
<p>Every once in a while I get a call from Catholic Charities, although I&#8217;ve asked them a couple times to remove me from their list.  I politely tell them that there are other charities that do the same good works CC does without discriminating against anyone, and that these are the only ones I&#8217;m inclined to support.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 21:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>andrew,

Good question and I&#039;m not absolutely sure of the answer.  My assumption is that these are children of Mormons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>andrew,</p>
<p>Good question and I&#8217;m not absolutely sure of the answer.  My assumption is that these are children of Mormons.</p>
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		<title>By: andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 21:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim, just out of curiosity, where do the Mormon&#039;s in MA &quot;get&quot; those children?  Does the state funnel needy children to them, or would a parent looking to give up a child / infant have to approach the Mormon organization?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim, just out of curiosity, where do the Mormon&#8217;s in MA &#8220;get&#8221; those children?  Does the state funnel needy children to them, or would a parent looking to give up a child / infant have to approach the Mormon organization?</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 19:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alternately, the Catholic Charities could do what the Mormon adoption agencies did in Massachusetts.  They could fund themselves and continue to place children only in families that fit their criteria.

I don&#039;t object to parents deciding that they want their child to be adopted only by someone who has the Catholic faith or by someone who only is heterosexual.  Just don&#039;t do it with my gay Protestant tax money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alternately, the Catholic Charities could do what the Mormon adoption agencies did in Massachusetts.  They could fund themselves and continue to place children only in families that fit their criteria.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t object to parents deciding that they want their child to be adopted only by someone who has the Catholic faith or by someone who only is heterosexual.  Just don&#8217;t do it with my gay Protestant tax money.</p>
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		<title>By: Ephilei</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ephilei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 18:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Christian, I believe the Church should get out of government as it limits what she can do, making her submit to the government&#039;s morality. As pro-gay, I agree with the government&#039;s morality over the Catholic Church&#039;s, but more often not. As a supporter of America&#039;s First Amendment, I believe that hiring religious institutions to contract the government&#039;s work violates the government&#039;s promise not to respect or encourage any religion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Christian, I believe the Church should get out of government as it limits what she can do, making her submit to the government&#8217;s morality. As pro-gay, I agree with the government&#8217;s morality over the Catholic Church&#8217;s, but more often not. As a supporter of America&#8217;s First Amendment, I believe that hiring religious institutions to contract the government&#8217;s work violates the government&#8217;s promise not to respect or encourage any religion.</p>
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