This was an attempt to get validation for the political ideology of ex-gays, not for discrimination against celibate gays or heterosexuals with a “complicated” orientation.

It is hard to imagine a company discriminating against straight people for being straight. If they include LGBT people, either specifically, or as part of a broad “no discrimination based on sexual orientation” clause, then there is no issue there either. Ex-gays would fall under one or the other for purposes of workplace discrimination.

So the only reason to insist on recognition of “ex-gay” as an explicit status would be to get either protection for voicing anti-gay views “All I was saying is that they are filthy in God’s eyes and can be cured if they try hard enough! Telling me to be quiet discriminates against me as ex-gay!”) or to try to force either contributions to ex-gay causes or an end to contributions and participation in pro-equality causes.

Just wondering here…

What do they think about when they masturbate?

(With the door closed in case Jesus comes back just then.)

1. Exodus (for all their flaws) genuinely does see itself as a ministry for same-sex attracted strugglers. While they engage in a lot of self-delusion, they – for the most part – are more into “living a life of freedom from sin” than bashing gays (though they don’t hold back much from that either)

PFOX, on the other hand, is entirely and solely interested in anti-gay activism. If something would hurt ex-gays, it matters not in the least as long as it is anti-gay.

2. PFOX has adopted a position that is destructive to Exodus’ basic premise.

Exodus says, “there’s no such thing as orientation, just temptation. The opposite of homosexuality is not a different orientation (heterosexuality), but a different lifestyle (holiness – submission to God).

PFOX comes along and says, “not only is there orientation, but ex-gay is one. Further, we demand that businesses and others honor our orientation (and, by extension, that of others)”.

Most folks pretty clearly see through the ex-gay = orientation nonsense. But PFOX’s adoption of the orientation dialogue confirms (for many) that orientation exists and that homosexuality is not just a fetish or hobby or habit, but a direction of attraction.

I can see how Randy would be irked.