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	<title>Comments on: Catholic Church continues to have predatory priest problems</title>
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		<title>By: Chris McCoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris McCoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 19:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@werdna:

Nope, I read that. A 21-year old secretly shot footage of a priest having sex with a 3rd party who was 19 at the time.

To me, this does not mean that the 21-year old had shot footage of himself, at the age of 19, having sex with the priest.

This does not enhance the claim that the priest abused minors, as the 19-year old is not a minor. Even if the same 19-year old was having sex with the priest 4 years previously, he still would have been 15, and still legally still able to give consent.

I am not attempting to de-legitimize the claims of the 21-year old. I am pointing out that the video footage does not show any illegal acts being committed.  Both the priest and the 19-year old are consensual adults under Brazilian law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@werdna:</p>
<p>Nope, I read that. A 21-year old secretly shot footage of a priest having sex with a 3rd party who was 19 at the time.</p>
<p>To me, this does not mean that the 21-year old had shot footage of himself, at the age of 19, having sex with the priest.</p>
<p>This does not enhance the claim that the priest abused minors, as the 19-year old is not a minor. Even if the same 19-year old was having sex with the priest 4 years previously, he still would have been 15, and still legally still able to give consent.</p>
<p>I am not attempting to de-legitimize the claims of the 21-year old. I am pointing out that the video footage does not show any illegal acts being committed.  Both the priest and the 19-year old are consensual adults under Brazilian law.</p>
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		<title>By: werdna</title>
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		<dc:creator>werdna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 18:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Chris-You must&#039;ve missed this in the AP story:

&lt;blockquote&gt;In its report last week, SBT showed footage of a man who looks like Barbosa having sex with the 19-year-old. It said the footage was secretly filmed in January 2009 by a 21-year-old man who charges Barbosa had abused him since age 12.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Chris-You must&#8217;ve missed this in the AP story:</p>
<blockquote><p>In its report last week, SBT showed footage of a man who looks like Barbosa having sex with the 19-year-old. It said the footage was secretly filmed in January 2009 by a 21-year-old man who charges Barbosa had abused him since age 12.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Chris McCoy</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2010/03/17/21216/comment-page-1#comment-64724</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris McCoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 18:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The case came to light after the SBT network aired a video purportedly showing an 82-year-old priest having sex with a 19-year-old altar boy who worked for him for four years.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
While some people disapprove of relationships where the difference in age is more than 5-10 years, the video footage still shows an act that is between &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.avert.org/age-of-consent.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;two consenting adults&lt;/a&gt;.

So far, the only thing Monsignor Barbosa is guilty of, is breaking his celibacy vow.

The AP article cited does not indicate if the 19-year old has said that he engaged in sex acts with the priest earlier; however, in Brazil, the authorities are not obliged to press charges if the victim is over the age of 14.  A 4-year tenure would mean this young man was a legally consenting adult of 15 years at the time he started &quot;working&quot; for the Monsignor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The case came to light after the SBT network aired a video purportedly showing an 82-year-old priest having sex with a 19-year-old altar boy who worked for him for four years.</p></blockquote>
<p>While some people disapprove of relationships where the difference in age is more than 5-10 years, the video footage still shows an act that is between <a href="http://www.avert.org/age-of-consent.htm" rel="nofollow">two consenting adults</a>.</p>
<p>So far, the only thing Monsignor Barbosa is guilty of, is breaking his celibacy vow.</p>
<p>The AP article cited does not indicate if the 19-year old has said that he engaged in sex acts with the priest earlier; however, in Brazil, the authorities are not obliged to press charges if the victim is over the age of 14.  A 4-year tenure would mean this young man was a legally consenting adult of 15 years at the time he started &#8220;working&#8221; for the Monsignor.</p>
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		<title>By: darkmoonman</title>
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		<dc:creator>darkmoonman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 14:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Were this anything but the Church, people would be examining the connection between priestly requirements (e.g. celibacy) and the trend for priest to molest young girls and boys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Were this anything but the Church, people would be examining the connection between priestly requirements (e.g. celibacy) and the trend for priest to molest young girls and boys.</p>
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		<title>By: paul j stein</title>
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		<dc:creator>paul j stein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 01:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I came out/was vocal about my sexuality too early (12yo) for my local priests. Never was hit on by any clergy members.All they could do was tell me to wait on it till I was married, YA RIGHT! There was a legitimate standing offer of $125 for a weekend camping trip with the  high school Principle in my older brother&#039;s day (1967).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I came out/was vocal about my sexuality too early (12yo) for my local priests. Never was hit on by any clergy members.All they could do was tell me to wait on it till I was married, YA RIGHT! There was a legitimate standing offer of $125 for a weekend camping trip with the  high school Principle in my older brother&#8217;s day (1967).</p>
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