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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Not Guilty, Not Ashamed, and Not Finished&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 11:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben:  It&#039;s technically possible since in limited circumstances even retired personnel are subject to the UCMJ since they draw a pension.  Yet prosecution in this case would be extremely difficult.

RR:  Well that&#039;s better but Sheehan still made an ass of himself regardless.

Timothy:  Both Choi &amp; Pietrangelo were wearing official US Army uniforms with military insignia at the time they pulled this stunt.  Specifically, there were wearing &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_Combat_Uniform&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ACU&lt;/a&gt;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben:  It&#8217;s technically possible since in limited circumstances even retired personnel are subject to the UCMJ since they draw a pension.  Yet prosecution in this case would be extremely difficult.</p>
<p>RR:  Well that&#8217;s better but Sheehan still made an ass of himself regardless.</p>
<p>Timothy:  Both Choi &amp; Pietrangelo were wearing official US Army uniforms with military insignia at the time they pulled this stunt.  Specifically, there were wearing <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_Combat_Uniform" rel="nofollow">ACU</a>s.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard W. Fitch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard W. Fitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 01:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Timothy - just got another pic of Choi just before the cuffs went on and he still had his patches, can&#039;t see Jim. A comment elsewhere indicated that they went into the courthouse with and were taken before release.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Timothy &#8211; just got another pic of Choi just before the cuffs went on and he still had his patches, can&#8217;t see Jim. A comment elsewhere indicated that they went into the courthouse with and were taken before release.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard W. Fitch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard W. Fitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 01:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Timothy: The pics that I have found of Choi at the HRC rally show him in camo with his name and various military insignia. The first pics at the fence no longer show them. I don&#039;t know at what point this change actually took place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Timothy: The pics that I have found of Choi at the HRC rally show him in camo with his name and various military insignia. The first pics at the fence no longer show them. I don&#8217;t know at what point this change actually took place.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 00:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A question about Choi and Pietrangelo,

these look to me just to be camouflage.  Since this sort of attire can be purchased at all kinds of places and does not appear to have any insignia, is this actually a &quot;uniform&quot;?

In other words, if Choi wanted to appear in uniform, why wouldn&#039;t he use his dress blues (or whatever he has) rather than what you&#039;d wear to go play paintball?

Perhaps one of our readers who have served can answer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A question about Choi and Pietrangelo,</p>
<p>these look to me just to be camouflage.  Since this sort of attire can be purchased at all kinds of places and does not appear to have any insignia, is this actually a &#8220;uniform&#8221;?</p>
<p>In other words, if Choi wanted to appear in uniform, why wouldn&#8217;t he use his dress blues (or whatever he has) rather than what you&#8217;d wear to go play paintball?</p>
<p>Perhaps one of our readers who have served can answer.</p>
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		<title>By: johnathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>johnathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 17:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard, thank you for letting me know. And you&#039;re right. I, too, care less. He is an a$$h*le in, or out, of uniform.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard, thank you for letting me know. And you&#8217;re right. I, too, care less. He is an a$$h*le in, or out, of uniform.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Rush</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Rush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 17:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sheehan was NOT wearing a uniform during the senate testimony, although I don&#039;t really care one way or the other.
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0V7Or0kbqY0&amp;feature=player_embedded&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here is the video.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sheehan was NOT wearing a uniform during the senate testimony, although I don&#8217;t really care one way or the other.<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0V7Or0kbqY0&amp;feature=player_embedded" rel="nofollow">Here is the video.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ben in Oakland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben in Oakland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 16:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I am wondering if sheehan wasu nder oath when he testified, and given the Dutch government&#039;s response, whether he can be prosecuted for lying under oath.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I am wondering if sheehan wasu nder oath when he testified, and given the Dutch government&#8217;s response, whether he can be prosecuted for lying under oath.</p>
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		<title>By: johnathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>johnathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 16:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard, no, no...I don&#039;t mean Choi and Pietrangelo...I mean Sheehan. Was that just a stock photo of Sheehan? Was Sheehan in uniform when HE testified? Does anyone know about that? I have no doubt about Choi and Pietrangelo appearing in uniform -- and I fully applaud that necessary and courageous act.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard, no, no&#8230;I don&#8217;t mean Choi and Pietrangelo&#8230;I mean Sheehan. Was that just a stock photo of Sheehan? Was Sheehan in uniform when HE testified? Does anyone know about that? I have no doubt about Choi and Pietrangelo appearing in uniform &#8212; and I fully applaud that necessary and courageous act.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard W. Fitch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard W. Fitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 15:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, this is NOT just a stock photo. They were uniformed as you see them. btw, this is the same courthouse that a few days earlier welcomed applicants for Marriage Equality to get their licenses. About 150 same-sex partners applied.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, this is NOT just a stock photo. They were uniformed as you see them. btw, this is the same courthouse that a few days earlier welcomed applicants for Marriage Equality to get their licenses. About 150 same-sex partners applied.</p>
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		<title>By: johnathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>johnathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 15:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me rephrase my comments -- I didn&#039;t see them either, but assumed from the photograph in this article. Just after posting, I thought, &quot;Maybe this picture is just a stock photo?&quot; So, I don&#039;t know whether he appeared in uniform or not. Does anyone on this board know?

Nevertheless, to Choi and Pietrangelo, I give my full support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me rephrase my comments &#8212; I didn&#8217;t see them either, but assumed from the photograph in this article. Just after posting, I thought, &#8220;Maybe this picture is just a stock photo?&#8221; So, I don&#8217;t know whether he appeared in uniform or not. Does anyone on this board know?</p>
<p>Nevertheless, to Choi and Pietrangelo, I give my full support.</p>
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