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	<title>Comments on: Will Lou Engle Unleash Another &#8220;Nuclear Bomb&#8221; In Uganda?</title>
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		<title>By: Maurice</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2010/04/22/21984/comment-page-1#comment-67098</link>
		<dc:creator>Maurice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 17:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To David again: So Jesse Engle says, &quot;as long as I am there, the Lord won&#039;t judge San Francisco.&quot; 

Re Ben in Oakland: This is a tough one. Does he get a free pass to live out his gay days in SF, or, is he the megalomaniac that Ben in Oakland described? 

To Frijondi: Your right. Maybe God wants them to spread the message of love and not the message of anti-gay. 

I googled him on Facebook. Interesting. On one hand I feel like a voyeur, on the other hand, Lou tossed his son into the media spotlight and Jesse is packin his bags for the Castro District.

 http://ko-kr.facebook.com/album.php?profile=1&amp;id=29987864434</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To David again: So Jesse Engle says, &#8220;as long as I am there, the Lord won&#8217;t judge San Francisco.&#8221; </p>
<p>Re Ben in Oakland: This is a tough one. Does he get a free pass to live out his gay days in SF, or, is he the megalomaniac that Ben in Oakland described? </p>
<p>To Frijondi: Your right. Maybe God wants them to spread the message of love and not the message of anti-gay. </p>
<p>I googled him on Facebook. Interesting. On one hand I feel like a voyeur, on the other hand, Lou tossed his son into the media spotlight and Jesse is packin his bags for the Castro District.</p>
<p> <a href="http://ko-kr.facebook.com/album.php?profile=1&#038;id=29987864434" rel="nofollow">http://ko-kr.facebook.com/album.php?profile=1&#038;id=29987864434</a></p>
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		<title>By: Maurice Lacunza</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maurice Lacunza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 17:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To David: I thought the same thing about that 19 year old and even had a little bit of compassion for him. Out of respect to him, I will spare the obvious commentary.

Did anyone notice that the crowd booed at the thought of San Francisco NOT being judged?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To David: I thought the same thing about that 19 year old and even had a little bit of compassion for him. Out of respect to him, I will spare the obvious commentary.</p>
<p>Did anyone notice that the crowd booed at the thought of San Francisco NOT being judged?</p>
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		<title>By: Ben in Oakland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben in Oakland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 15:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Dad,” he said, “as long as I’m there I don’t think the Lord will judge San Francisco.&quot;

Megalomania much, mister?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Dad,” he said, “as long as I’m there I don’t think the Lord will judge San Francisco.&#8221;</p>
<p>Megalomania much, mister?</p>
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		<title>By: DN</title>
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		<dc:creator>DN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 14:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First I saw this Engle guy was in the movie, Jesus Camp.  Worth a watch to see how skilled he and his ilk are at breaking people down and rebuilding them into their own soldiers.  Of course, in that movie, they&#039;re doing it to pre-pubescent children...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First I saw this Engle guy was in the movie, Jesus Camp.  Worth a watch to see how skilled he and his ilk are at breaking people down and rebuilding them into their own soldiers.  Of course, in that movie, they&#8217;re doing it to pre-pubescent children&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 08:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where&#039;s the CIA when you need them? They have to stop this before there are more lives lost and America becomes a joke.

BTW, GayUganda&#039;s blog has been silent too long. He has had death threats, hope he is ok.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where&#8217;s the CIA when you need them? They have to stop this before there are more lives lost and America becomes a joke.</p>
<p>BTW, GayUganda&#8217;s blog has been silent too long. He has had death threats, hope he is ok.</p>
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		<title>By: paul j stein</title>
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		<dc:creator>paul j stein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 02:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We need to focus on TAXING the churches! Remove the ability to conduct this crap on a deductible basis.</description>
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		<title>By: Christine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 22:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And will Exodus International, Focus on the Family, and Liberty University continue to affiliate with such extremists?

They are all part of a coalition called the &quot;Freedom Federation.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And will Exodus International, Focus on the Family, and Liberty University continue to affiliate with such extremists?</p>
<p>They are all part of a coalition called the &#8220;Freedom Federation.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Frijondi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frijondi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 21:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Jesse Engle starts noticing that gays are just regular people, he&#039;ll have to figure out what to do with his life besides playing at casting out demons.  And I cannot imagine that either going to college or working at a normal job would be nearly as exciting as that.  So there&#039;s a built-in inducement for him not to see all the well-adjusted homosexuals right under his nose (or even sitting across from him at breakfast, if David&#039;s right.)  

Engle&#039;s brand of millenialism and demonology plays into people&#039;s need to feel as if they&#039;re at the center of some cosmic drama.  If your future prospects are uncertain, that can be quite seductive.  He targets young people in particular, and has been unusually successful in doing so.  If you&#039;re recently out of high school, unemployed, and an evangelical, what would you rather be?  A faceless casualty of the recession, or a mighty warrior in Elijah&#039;s army, blowing the trumpet in Zion?  Until the economy picks up, Engle&#039;s appeal is only going to get broader.

Notice how he plays up the scariness of it all -- Jesse is casting out demons ONE BLOCK FROM THE CASTRO.  (It is scary.  Any minute now, he could be seriously overcharged for a croissant.)  Engle also panders to people&#039;s desire to be scared in a fun, slasher movie kind of way.  That always has a certain appeal, and it&#039;s only going to get more appealing now that there are genuinely scary things out there like foreclosure and joblessness.  You can pay ten bucks to go to a horror movie, or you can go to The Call rallies and feel delightfully pretend-scared and very, very important at the same time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Jesse Engle starts noticing that gays are just regular people, he&#8217;ll have to figure out what to do with his life besides playing at casting out demons.  And I cannot imagine that either going to college or working at a normal job would be nearly as exciting as that.  So there&#8217;s a built-in inducement for him not to see all the well-adjusted homosexuals right under his nose (or even sitting across from him at breakfast, if David&#8217;s right.)  </p>
<p>Engle&#8217;s brand of millenialism and demonology plays into people&#8217;s need to feel as if they&#8217;re at the center of some cosmic drama.  If your future prospects are uncertain, that can be quite seductive.  He targets young people in particular, and has been unusually successful in doing so.  If you&#8217;re recently out of high school, unemployed, and an evangelical, what would you rather be?  A faceless casualty of the recession, or a mighty warrior in Elijah&#8217;s army, blowing the trumpet in Zion?  Until the economy picks up, Engle&#8217;s appeal is only going to get broader.</p>
<p>Notice how he plays up the scariness of it all &#8212; Jesse is casting out demons ONE BLOCK FROM THE CASTRO.  (It is scary.  Any minute now, he could be seriously overcharged for a croissant.)  Engle also panders to people&#8217;s desire to be scared in a fun, slasher movie kind of way.  That always has a certain appeal, and it&#8217;s only going to get more appealing now that there are genuinely scary things out there like foreclosure and joblessness.  You can pay ten bucks to go to a horror movie, or you can go to The Call rallies and feel delightfully pretend-scared and very, very important at the same time.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 20:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm

a nineteen year old dreams that he&#039;s to go to San Francisco and spend hours and hours and hours in the Castro.

Any doubt at all what that is really about?

Better give dad a reason he&#039;ll accept - I know, tell dad you&#039;re going to save the gays.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm</p>
<p>a nineteen year old dreams that he&#8217;s to go to San Francisco and spend hours and hours and hours in the Castro.</p>
<p>Any doubt at all what that is really about?</p>
<p>Better give dad a reason he&#8217;ll accept &#8211; I know, tell dad you&#8217;re going to save the gays.</p>
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		<title>By: anteros</title>
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		<dc:creator>anteros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 20:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>is there any way engle&#039;s visit to uganda can be prevented?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is there any way engle&#8217;s visit to uganda can be prevented?</p>
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