Comments on: Rekers’ Defense (you may want to read this somewhere that it’s OK to laugh out loud… or cry) http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2010/05/04/22263 News, analysis and fact-checking of anti-gay rhetoric Thu, 23 May 2013 06:14:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: Barbara http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2010/05/04/22263/comment-page-1#comment-253116 Barbara Fri, 22 Feb 2013 23:30:56 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=22263#comment-253116 These techniques are most detieifnly barbaric and evil, regardless of whether they're applied to sexual orientation or something else. Creating an environment where a child is punished for random behaviors that are arbitrarily labeled as "wrong" (in this case, feminine) is cruel and psychologically torturous on a staggering level. Even if such methods were applied to something like bed-wetting, not only would they not solve the problem, the child would be looking at years and years of therapy. Shattering a child's self-esteem and forcing them to live in constant fear that the slightest misstep will result in harsh punishment is barbaric no matter what context it is used.It's also worth noting that the rate of suicide or attempted suicide is higher in gay teens than any other demographic. Ignorant, cruel shit like this is one of the reasons. These techniques are most detieifnly barbaric and evil, regardless of whether they’re applied to sexual orientation or something else. Creating an environment where a child is punished for random behaviors that are arbitrarily labeled as “wrong” (in this case, feminine) is cruel and psychologically torturous on a staggering level. Even if such methods were applied to something like bed-wetting, not only would they not solve the problem, the child would be looking at years and years of therapy. Shattering a child’s self-esteem and forcing them to live in constant fear that the slightest misstep will result in harsh punishment is barbaric no matter what context it is used.It’s also worth noting that the rate of suicide or attempted suicide is higher in gay teens than any other demographic. Ignorant, cruel shit like this is one of the reasons.

]]> By: $87,000 In Taxpayer Funds For THIS Expert? | Andrew Tobias http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2010/05/04/22263/comment-page-1#comment-119732 $87,000 In Taxpayer Funds For THIS Expert? | Andrew Tobias Mon, 19 Mar 2012 02:19:15 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=22263#comment-119732 [...] Like John the Baptist and Jesus, I have a loving Christian ministry to homosexuals and prostitutes in which I share the Good News of Jesus Christ with them . . . [...] [...] Like John the Baptist and Jesus, I have a loving Christian ministry to homosexuals and prostitutes in which I share the Good News of Jesus Christ with them . . . [...]

]]> By: Mudduck http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2010/05/04/22263/comment-page-1#comment-67919 Mudduck Thu, 06 May 2010 04:28:48 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=22263#comment-67919 Timothy, you said, 'Rekers may not have actually had sex with the kid. I don’t doubt that he did bore him with endless evangelism. That’s the justification that Rekers gives himself to try and rationalize his own urges . . . Unable to recognize and accept his attractions which would allow him to construct an ethical life and flow his attractions into a healthy response, he has pushed them down and smothered them and now has no power over them. So now there is George Rekers cruising Rentboy, telling himself that he’s only there for the evangelism, that he’s feeling compassion not lust, that it’s okay because he won’t go that far too far not quite not yet really it’s not sin really he won’t have sex with them.' You may well have the right of it. Sounds familiar from my years of trying to balance desire with religion, of hoping for temptation while rejecting it. Anyway, I'm quoting you all over the Web when this topic comes up. George Rekers is a jerk and a hypocrite, but he has a context. Timothy, you said, ‘Rekers may not have actually had sex with the kid. I don’t doubt that he did bore him with endless evangelism. That’s the justification that Rekers gives himself to try and rationalize his own urges . . . Unable to recognize and accept his attractions which would allow him to construct an ethical life and flow his attractions into a healthy response, he has pushed them down and smothered them and now has no power over them. So now there is George Rekers cruising Rentboy, telling himself that he’s only there for the evangelism, that he’s feeling compassion not lust, that it’s okay because he won’t go that far too far not quite not yet really it’s not sin really he won’t have sex with them.’

You may well have the right of it. Sounds familiar from my years of trying to balance desire with religion, of hoping for temptation while rejecting it. Anyway, I’m quoting you all over the Web when this topic comes up. George Rekers is a jerk and a hypocrite, but he has a context.

]]> By: Jon http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2010/05/04/22263/comment-page-1#comment-67879 Jon Wed, 05 May 2010 18:07:59 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=22263#comment-67879 "There is another ex-gay angle to this whole sordid mess that we may not have considered. Some of these prostitutes are gay for pay, and are actually heterosexual, just trying to make a buck." This rentboy's profile states that he's bisexual and versatile. He also claims to be 20, but I agree with others -- his photos make him look disturbingly young. If Mekers really wanted someone to carry his bags, he could easily have found a big muscle guy in his 30s on the same site. “There is another ex-gay angle to this whole sordid mess that we may not have considered. Some of these prostitutes are gay for pay, and are actually heterosexual, just trying to make a buck.”

This rentboy’s profile states that he’s bisexual and versatile. He also claims to be 20, but I agree with others — his photos make him look disturbingly young. If Mekers really wanted someone to carry his bags, he could easily have found a big muscle guy in his 30s on the same site.

]]> By: Ivan http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2010/05/04/22263/comment-page-1#comment-67877 Ivan Wed, 05 May 2010 17:28:26 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=22263#comment-67877 Reminds me of Sir Norman Fry - the ficticious Conservative politician portrayed in the Little Britain comedy series: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtQcQhZFnIg&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEgspP0BYq4&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFJC0hX4N2w&feature=related Reminds me of Sir Norman Fry – the ficticious Conservative politician portrayed in the Little Britain comedy series:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtQcQhZFnIg&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEgspP0BYq4&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFJC0hX4N2w&feature=related

]]> By: Priya Lynn http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2010/05/04/22263/comment-page-1#comment-67870 Priya Lynn Wed, 05 May 2010 15:28:22 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=22263#comment-67870 Candace said "Well, if Rekkers is married, his wife better contact Ms. Haggard to find out where to purchase those nifty butt toys that keep Ted at home and heterosexually satisfied nowadays.". That was hilarious Candace! Candace said “Well, if Rekkers is married, his wife better contact Ms. Haggard to find out where to purchase those nifty butt toys that keep Ted at home and heterosexually satisfied nowadays.”.

That was hilarious Candace!

]]> By: TJMcFisty http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2010/05/04/22263/comment-page-1#comment-67856 TJMcFisty Wed, 05 May 2010 06:06:30 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=22263#comment-67856 See...now, Lynn...these, THESE international butlers just carry luggage. They only CARRY luggage and maybe straighten your tie. Make tea or a phone call. They don't do it in the butt area later. I'm sure Rekers went up and down the Googles and learned international butlers weren't the butlers for him. Probably all old, too. At least 25 and unfit. Eww. rentaboy.com + luggage-carrying = European buttsecks > ministering for Jesus See…now, Lynn…these, THESE international butlers just carry luggage. They only CARRY luggage and maybe straighten your tie. Make tea or a phone call. They don’t do it in the butt area later.

I’m sure Rekers went up and down the Googles and learned international butlers weren’t the butlers for him. Probably all old, too. At least 25 and unfit. Eww.

rentaboy.com + luggage-carrying = European buttsecks > ministering for Jesus

]]> By: Lynn David http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2010/05/04/22263/comment-page-1#comment-67845 Lynn David Wed, 05 May 2010 02:11:08 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=22263#comment-67845 www.internationalbutlers.com/placements/placements.htm The man either doesn't know Google or is a fool. http://www.internationalbutlers.com/placements/placements.htm

The man either doesn’t know Google or is a fool.

]]> By: John in the Bay Area http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2010/05/04/22263/comment-page-1#comment-67844 John in the Bay Area Wed, 05 May 2010 02:01:20 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=22263#comment-67844 There is another ex-gay angle to this whole sordid mess that we may not have considered. Some of these prostitutes are gay for pay, and are actually heterosexual, just trying to make a buck. In that case, closet case Rekers might have thought that paying a heterosexual male escort (who has no hangups about sex for pay with men) to spend 10 days with him in a "non-sexual" relationship, might get him in touch with his inner heterosexual self. Meanwhile, during there sexual activity (poor ex-gay guy falling for temptation with naked hooker in his hotel room), Rekers could be going on and on about how awful homosexual sexual activity is, and the kid is just saying to himself, "Yeah, but it does pay the bills." There is another ex-gay angle to this whole sordid mess that we may not have considered. Some of these prostitutes are gay for pay, and are actually heterosexual, just trying to make a buck.

In that case, closet case Rekers might have thought that paying a heterosexual male escort (who has no hangups about sex for pay with men) to spend 10 days with him in a “non-sexual” relationship, might get him in touch with his inner heterosexual self.

Meanwhile, during there sexual activity (poor ex-gay guy falling for temptation with naked hooker in his hotel room), Rekers could be going on and on about how awful homosexual sexual activity is, and the kid is just saying to himself, “Yeah, but it does pay the bills.”

]]> By: Candace http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2010/05/04/22263/comment-page-1#comment-67835 Candace Wed, 05 May 2010 00:40:48 +0000 http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=22263#comment-67835 You don't have to look far, Phil, there's a pic on BTB and Joe.My.God. "Geo" looks like he's MAYBE 14. You don’t have to look far, Phil, there’s a pic on BTB and Joe.My.God. “Geo” looks like he’s MAYBE 14.

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