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	<title>Comments on: Exodus Co-Founder: I Regret Teaching If You Had Enough Faith You Would Be Changed</title>
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		<title>By: Jason Hughes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2010 14:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While it&#039;s great that he&#039;s ashamed of what he used to teach, sadly many that he taught now espouse those same lies of &quot;change is possible.&quot; It&#039;s really a shame that the people teaching these lies today don&#039;t come to the realization sooner, but I suppose that&#039;s life--each individual gets there in their own time and pace, if at all in some cases... Still, I commend him on speaking about it now, and hopefully his new message will reach some of those still in crisis about their identity... Thanks for sharing this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While it&#8217;s great that he&#8217;s ashamed of what he used to teach, sadly many that he taught now espouse those same lies of &#8220;change is possible.&#8221; It&#8217;s really a shame that the people teaching these lies today don&#8217;t come to the realization sooner, but I suppose that&#8217;s life&#8211;each individual gets there in their own time and pace, if at all in some cases&#8230; Still, I commend him on speaking about it now, and hopefully his new message will reach some of those still in crisis about their identity&#8230; Thanks for sharing this.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Brentlinger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Brentlinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2010 05:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Daniel, for hosting this interview (you&#039;re a gem!) and thank you Michael for your quiet courage and honesty.

Something you said in this segment encouraged me tonight. Many thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Daniel, for hosting this interview (you&#8217;re a gem!) and thank you Michael for your quiet courage and honesty.</p>
<p>Something you said in this segment encouraged me tonight. Many thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2010 03:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ugh.  I was also accused of being unfaithful and unbelieving because I wasn&#039;t suddenly hetero.  Also because I continued to have sinus infections.  Gee.  Such wickedness.

How I HATE the &quot;name it and claim it&quot; bs.  Back when I was a believer (25 years ago) it meant that I had no way of knowing when anyone was speaking something that was actually TRUE - see, you couldn&#039;t even say &quot;I have a cold&quot; because that meant you weren&#039;t naming/claiming &quot;by his stripes we are healed&quot; and were therefore CONDEMNED to have the cold... especially since as a child of God your words had the power of God (though I swear I don&#039;t remember how the hell they twisted the Bible to get to that last bit).

In fact, it was the &quot;name it and claim it&quot; GARBAGE that finally broke Christianity and my lifetime of faith into tiny little pieces... what finally led me to realize that the whole freakin&#039; mess was nothing more than spiritual bullying, spiritual and mental abuse.  

To this day, decades later, I can&#039;t even abide hearing vapid New Age &quot;positive affirmations&quot; because of the Name-It-And-Claim-It ghosts it conjures up for me.

Such wretched, wretched, wretched things to teach.  I am glad he regrets it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ugh.  I was also accused of being unfaithful and unbelieving because I wasn&#8217;t suddenly hetero.  Also because I continued to have sinus infections.  Gee.  Such wickedness.</p>
<p>How I HATE the &#8220;name it and claim it&#8221; bs.  Back when I was a believer (25 years ago) it meant that I had no way of knowing when anyone was speaking something that was actually TRUE &#8211; see, you couldn&#8217;t even say &#8220;I have a cold&#8221; because that meant you weren&#8217;t naming/claiming &#8220;by his stripes we are healed&#8221; and were therefore CONDEMNED to have the cold&#8230; especially since as a child of God your words had the power of God (though I swear I don&#8217;t remember how the hell they twisted the Bible to get to that last bit).</p>
<p>In fact, it was the &#8220;name it and claim it&#8221; GARBAGE that finally broke Christianity and my lifetime of faith into tiny little pieces&#8230; what finally led me to realize that the whole freakin&#8217; mess was nothing more than spiritual bullying, spiritual and mental abuse.  </p>
<p>To this day, decades later, I can&#8217;t even abide hearing vapid New Age &#8220;positive affirmations&#8221; because of the Name-It-And-Claim-It ghosts it conjures up for me.</p>
<p>Such wretched, wretched, wretched things to teach.  I am glad he regrets it.</p>
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		<title>By: Candace</title>
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		<dc:creator>Candace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2010 01:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YESTERDAY, not 5 or 10 years ago, I was talking to a person I know who is a christian counselor, on the board of a ministry, etc., and even though she is well-acquainted with my history of trying to become heterosexual-- which consisted of YEARS and years-- probably 30 years of resisting Teh Gay-- of prayer and bible reading and getting saved and repenting and getting filled with the Spirit and getting saved and repenting and getting saved (repeat 5,000 times) and going to christian counselors and secular counselors and psychologists and doing inner healing and hundreds of hours in church support groups and fasting and praying and exorcisms and more exorcisms and praying and ministering to others and confessing and being in church every time the doors opened and tithing and giving offerings and almsdeeds and reading every christian self-help book ever written-- because at almost 50 years old, I quit trying to be hetero and accepted being a gay woman-- she told me the problem was that I just didn&#039;t want to change.  I wasn&#039;t &quot;serious&quot; about change.  I didn&#039;t try hard enough.

She said this YESTERDAY.  And got all snippy because I didn&#039;t want to hear her NARTH cr*p.

She also said &quot;gay&quot; is just a phase I&#039;m going through.  I&#039;m not REALLY gay, even though I have been with my partner for 9 years and have known I was &quot;different&quot; since I was 3 years old.  Yes, a 55-year-long &quot;phase.&quot;

You can&#039;t fix stupid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YESTERDAY, not 5 or 10 years ago, I was talking to a person I know who is a christian counselor, on the board of a ministry, etc., and even though she is well-acquainted with my history of trying to become heterosexual&#8211; which consisted of YEARS and years&#8211; probably 30 years of resisting Teh Gay&#8211; of prayer and bible reading and getting saved and repenting and getting filled with the Spirit and getting saved and repenting and getting saved (repeat 5,000 times) and going to christian counselors and secular counselors and psychologists and doing inner healing and hundreds of hours in church support groups and fasting and praying and exorcisms and more exorcisms and praying and ministering to others and confessing and being in church every time the doors opened and tithing and giving offerings and almsdeeds and reading every christian self-help book ever written&#8211; because at almost 50 years old, I quit trying to be hetero and accepted being a gay woman&#8211; she told me the problem was that I just didn&#8217;t want to change.  I wasn&#8217;t &#8220;serious&#8221; about change.  I didn&#8217;t try hard enough.</p>
<p>She said this YESTERDAY.  And got all snippy because I didn&#8217;t want to hear her NARTH cr*p.</p>
<p>She also said &#8220;gay&#8221; is just a phase I&#8217;m going through.  I&#8217;m not REALLY gay, even though I have been with my partner for 9 years and have known I was &#8220;different&#8221; since I was 3 years old.  Yes, a 55-year-long &#8220;phase.&#8221;</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t fix stupid.</p>
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