Comments on: Logan, UT (and Mormon Church?) support non-discrimination laws

By: Pender

Pender — Mon, 24 May 2010 21:04:19 +0000

I will never forgive the Mormon church for the evil it has done, and I will never forget it, and likely millions of other gay Americans feel the same way.

But there are lots of evildoers in the world, and like the hikers being chased by a bear, they don’t have to outrun the bear — they just have to outrun their fellow travelers.

Given that their campaign to look less evil apparently involves actually doing less evil, I call it a win-win.

By: penguinsaur

penguinsaur — Sun, 23 May 2010 11:29:34 +0000

“Question: can you imagine Peter LaBarbara supporting anti-discrimination laws?”

If Peter Labarbera was a nationwide, multi-million dollar organization which is utterly dependent on PR to keep donations rolling in I could very easily imagine him claiming to support *but not with any time, money or volunteers* a tiny issue like this so he could point to it as proof he’s not a hater while he spends millions trying to take rights away from gay people.

By: cowboy

cowboy — Sat, 22 May 2010 17:23:05 +0000

I am still wondering what justsearching means. There is no such scale in whatever is an inner sanctum of any Mormon Temple.

By: cowboy

cowboy — Fri, 21 May 2010 15:42:47 +0000

You can see where this is going. First came the surprise endorsement by a spokesman from the LDS at that Salt Lake City council meeting. Then, the ultra-sanctimonious Mormons (as opposed to the “normal” Mormons) in the Utah Legislature thought they might pass legislation which would nullify what the SL Council did for Salt Lake City.

There was a “truce” between the uber-Mormons and the Gays. Two opposing groups agreed upon during this last legislature session: Nobody would bring icky gay issues to debate.

So…we have Salt Lake City, and then Park City and now Logan who have enacted some anti-discriminatory ordinances. There will probably be more cities to come.

You can see when this coming 2011Utah Legislature is in session they will be hard pressed to make a law to override these city ordinances. It might have been easy to nullify the Salt Lake City ordinance because the city is full of “liberals” and “commies”. But, now we have Park City and Logan and….???

It would be too nasty-looking for some Mormons in the Legislature to vote away anti-discrimination laws now.

But, I bet Provo (host city to BYU) will be the last to even consider anti-gay ordinances. If they do pass an anti-discrimination ordinance in Provo, I will join the local ballroom dance team.

By: DN

DN — Thu, 20 May 2010 23:30:15 +0000

As good as this news is, don’t forget Chris Buttars (gays are as big a threat as terrorism) was born and raised in Logan. Still, progress is progress.

By: L. Junius Brutus

L. Junius Brutus — Thu, 20 May 2010 22:36:35 +0000

I’m just saying, LaBarbara is as close to the golden standard of hate as you can get. If you’re a real hater, you will probably act rather like he does.

By: TonyJazz

TonyJazz — Thu, 20 May 2010 19:57:33 +0000

But, Junius, isn’t using LaBarbara as a standard nearly as bad? There are few people in civilized society who are bigger jerks than he happens to be….
At least, the Mormons are moving in the right direction.
Maybe someday they’ll get to the point when they question the bizarre origins of their church and seek reality instead, as well…

By: L. Junius Brutus

L. Junius Brutus — Thu, 20 May 2010 18:24:14 +0000

“If I raped your sister, could I then do anything to gain your friendship? Especially if I did not confess??”

Funding Prop. 8 is not really comparable to raping someone’s sister. And true hate involves more than simply wanting to ban gay marriage – which seemed to have more to do with the Mormon Church’s intrigues aimed at getting accepted as a Christian denomination by Catholics and Protestants. Question: can you imagine Peter LaBarbara supporting anti-discrimination laws? Of course not, because he hates our guts and would ban us from breathing oxygen if he could. Hell, he won’t even condemn the Ugandan law.

I don’t really care about whether this is a PR-stunt or not: we should wish for such PR-stunts.

By: justsearching

justsearching — Thu, 20 May 2010 17:36:52 +0000

The Mormons have a scale in the inner sanctum of their Temple.

This scale is able to discern how many members or potential members (aka $$ suppliers) they’ll win or lose based on their stance on any given issue.

By: customartist

customartist — Thu, 20 May 2010 15:13:28 +0000

“You can have THESE rights, but not THOSE ones(marriage)”. – Mormons

Although it is a step in the right direction, we are still denied the right to marry, and in a very large part due to the Mormon Church’s money and efforts. They hid the truth about Prop 8. The Church lied. They are not our friends.

If I raped your sister, could I then do anything to gain your friendship? Especially if I did not confess??