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	<title>Comments on: Translating Rush Limbaugh</title>
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		<title>By: Burr</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2010/05/28/23109/comment-page-1#comment-69942</link>
		<dc:creator>Burr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 22:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s the deal with Elton John performing at his whopping hypocritical 4th wedding? :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s the deal with Elton John performing at his whopping hypocritical 4th wedding? :P</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry Sloan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry Sloan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 20:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like Samuel I have followed his career since he was here in Sacramento. I do not believe one can believe ANYTHING that comes out of Limbaugh&#039;s mouth. 

Just prior to his leaving Sacramento a caller asked him why he did not have his own radio station. He replied that he might do something like that down the road but for now, &lt;b&gt;&quot;I am not through performing.&quot;&lt;/b&gt;

So as far as I am concerned he considers himself an actor doing a role, i.e., stirring up the illerate masses.

One day as I was driving from Modesto, where I had spoklen to a GLBT student group, to Sacramento I was listening to him and a caller asked to repeat the &quot;gerbil story.&quot; Limbaugh then launched into a story he told many times about how gay men inserted gerbils into their rectums.

He said it must be so &quot;because I have never had an irate homosexual call in and refute it.&quot;

I said to myself &lt;i&gt;&quot;Honey, you want to see an irate queen I will show you one!&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

I promptly filed a complaint with the Sacramento Human Rights Commission concerning his remarks about gays and the &quot;ugly women&quot; who belonged to NOW.

I wanted him to sit across the table from the president of the local chapter of NOW who was a knockout blonde and tell her she was ugly.

Unfortunately we were informed that Rush was leaving Sacramento in 6 weeks to start a national broadcast so for the most part our complaint was moot.

Limbaugh may have some kind private thoughts toward GLBT people but over the years his public record his dismal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like Samuel I have followed his career since he was here in Sacramento. I do not believe one can believe ANYTHING that comes out of Limbaugh&#8217;s mouth. </p>
<p>Just prior to his leaving Sacramento a caller asked him why he did not have his own radio station. He replied that he might do something like that down the road but for now, <b>&#8220;I am not through performing.&#8221;</b></p>
<p>So as far as I am concerned he considers himself an actor doing a role, i.e., stirring up the illerate masses.</p>
<p>One day as I was driving from Modesto, where I had spoklen to a GLBT student group, to Sacramento I was listening to him and a caller asked to repeat the &#8220;gerbil story.&#8221; Limbaugh then launched into a story he told many times about how gay men inserted gerbils into their rectums.</p>
<p>He said it must be so &#8220;because I have never had an irate homosexual call in and refute it.&#8221;</p>
<p>I said to myself <i>&#8220;Honey, you want to see an irate queen I will show you one!&#8221;</i></p>
<p>I promptly filed a complaint with the Sacramento Human Rights Commission concerning his remarks about gays and the &#8220;ugly women&#8221; who belonged to NOW.</p>
<p>I wanted him to sit across the table from the president of the local chapter of NOW who was a knockout blonde and tell her she was ugly.</p>
<p>Unfortunately we were informed that Rush was leaving Sacramento in 6 weeks to start a national broadcast so for the most part our complaint was moot.</p>
<p>Limbaugh may have some kind private thoughts toward GLBT people but over the years his public record his dismal.</p>
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		<title>By: Marlene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marlene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 11:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason why Rush has been so successful has been due to the deregulation of radio ownership, and the death of the Fairness doctrine.

When one company can own hundreds of stations across the country, then require them to air this fat, drug-addicted  bigot&#039;s bile, that ensures success. Not to mention the fact stations aren&#039;t required to air opposing viewpoints, meant so-called &quot;liberal&quot; shows we doomed to fail.

Radio needs to be broken up to remove the monopoly, and just like many other industries needs to be heavily re-regulated again to ensure abuses are limited.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason why Rush has been so successful has been due to the deregulation of radio ownership, and the death of the Fairness doctrine.</p>
<p>When one company can own hundreds of stations across the country, then require them to air this fat, drug-addicted  bigot&#8217;s bile, that ensures success. Not to mention the fact stations aren&#8217;t required to air opposing viewpoints, meant so-called &#8220;liberal&#8221; shows we doomed to fail.</p>
<p>Radio needs to be broken up to remove the monopoly, and just like many other industries needs to be heavily re-regulated again to ensure abuses are limited.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred in the UK</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred in the UK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 11:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Houndentenor, I entirely agree with your comment about Christian fundamentalism. As you point out, younger conservative voters are far more comfortable with homosexuality than older conservative voters. I don&#039;t doubt that the power-brokers in the GOP don&#039;t care about gays, but do they care about Christian fundamentalists? When they day comes when they loose the GOP more votes than they win for it will they be tossed aside? Will underlying social trends trump the current holders of political power/influence?

As an aside, the modest progress on gay rights in a Democratic controlled Congress leads me to doubt the power-brokers of the Democratic party care about gays either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Houndentenor, I entirely agree with your comment about Christian fundamentalism. As you point out, younger conservative voters are far more comfortable with homosexuality than older conservative voters. I don&#8217;t doubt that the power-brokers in the GOP don&#8217;t care about gays, but do they care about Christian fundamentalists? When they day comes when they loose the GOP more votes than they win for it will they be tossed aside? Will underlying social trends trump the current holders of political power/influence?</p>
<p>As an aside, the modest progress on gay rights in a Democratic controlled Congress leads me to doubt the power-brokers of the Democratic party care about gays either.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 03:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Timothy Kincaid&#039;s conservative/Republican agenda on this blog is getting out of hand. It is very off putting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Timothy Kincaid&#8217;s conservative/Republican agenda on this blog is getting out of hand. It is very off putting.</p>
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		<title>By: Priya Lynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Priya Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 22:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, its not a wholehearted or unreserved defense of Limbaugh, you&#039;ve included lots of criticism as well.  I can&#039;t quite find the words to describe it but something like  a moderate, ambivalent, or mixed defense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, its not a wholehearted or unreserved defense of Limbaugh, you&#8217;ve included lots of criticism as well.  I can&#8217;t quite find the words to describe it but something like  a moderate, ambivalent, or mixed defense.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 22:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neil,

I do not know why you, Priya Lynn, and David Link think the piece is a defense of Limbaugh.  But I guess you guys do.  

Oh well.

Thanks for the notice about Link&#039;s comment, by the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neil,</p>
<p>I do not know why you, Priya Lynn, and David Link think the piece is a defense of Limbaugh.  But I guess you guys do.  </p>
<p>Oh well.</p>
<p>Thanks for the notice about Link&#8217;s comment, by the way.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 21:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your friend David Link at the independent gay forum linked to this post saying...

&quot;Which brings me to Rush Limbaugh, and a savvy defense of him on gay rights.  As Timothy Kincaid observes at Box Turtle Bulletin, while we’re used to assuming Rush is a Neanderthal reactionary on gay rights, that may not be correct.&quot;

It was not only a defense, it was a &quot;savvy defense&quot;.  

Why do Priya Lynn, David Link, and I all reach the same conclusion?

Look - it&#039;s fine if you have some common ideology with Rush.  Maybe you like the schtick.  It&#039;s not my thing and I find his brand of conservatism quite dangerous to America in general.  I see no reason to give him any credit for not being a homophobe.  It&#039;s sort of like saying some criminal is nice to their mother so they can&#039;t be all bad.

If you want to rehab conservatism in the minds of gays, go ahead.  Certainly Rush is one of those problems you&#039;ll have to overcome.  This attempt didn&#039;t convince me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your friend David Link at the independent gay forum linked to this post saying&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Which brings me to Rush Limbaugh, and a savvy defense of him on gay rights.  As Timothy Kincaid observes at Box Turtle Bulletin, while we’re used to assuming Rush is a Neanderthal reactionary on gay rights, that may not be correct.&#8221;</p>
<p>It was not only a defense, it was a &#8220;savvy defense&#8221;.  </p>
<p>Why do Priya Lynn, David Link, and I all reach the same conclusion?</p>
<p>Look &#8211; it&#8217;s fine if you have some common ideology with Rush.  Maybe you like the schtick.  It&#8217;s not my thing and I find his brand of conservatism quite dangerous to America in general.  I see no reason to give him any credit for not being a homophobe.  It&#8217;s sort of like saying some criminal is nice to their mother so they can&#8217;t be all bad.</p>
<p>If you want to rehab conservatism in the minds of gays, go ahead.  Certainly Rush is one of those problems you&#8217;ll have to overcome.  This attempt didn&#8217;t convince me.</p>
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		<title>By: Houndentenor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Houndentenor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 21:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The main difference between the right in the US and the right in Western Europe is that there is no equivalent of Christian fundamentalism in European politics.  Yes, there are social conservatives but far fewer and far less obsessive than in America.  I don&#039;t for a second believe that most of the power-brokers in the GOP give a crap one way or the other about gays except as a wedge issue to appeal to people who do not benefit at all from their economic policies (and are often harmed by them).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The main difference between the right in the US and the right in Western Europe is that there is no equivalent of Christian fundamentalism in European politics.  Yes, there are social conservatives but far fewer and far less obsessive than in America.  I don&#8217;t for a second believe that most of the power-brokers in the GOP give a crap one way or the other about gays except as a wedge issue to appeal to people who do not benefit at all from their economic policies (and are often harmed by them).</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 20:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>R,

Good point.  In my listing of &lt;i&gt;&quot;nudge nudge, wink wink humor, spiteful parodies, and coy race-based ‘comedy’&quot;&lt;/i&gt;, I should have also included &quot;&lt;i&gt;blatant sexism&lt;/i&gt;&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>R,</p>
<p>Good point.  In my listing of <i>&#8220;nudge nudge, wink wink humor, spiteful parodies, and coy race-based ‘comedy’&#8221;</i>, I should have also included &#8220;<i>blatant sexism</i>&#8220;.</p>
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