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		<title>By: Burr</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2010/06/04/23253/comment-page-1#comment-75292</link>
		<dc:creator>Burr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2010 21:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like he&#039;s doubling down on his idiocy.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/08/10/1768938/mccollum-ban-gays-from-being-foster.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;McCollum: Ban gays from being foster parents&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like he&#8217;s doubling down on his idiocy.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/08/10/1768938/mccollum-ban-gays-from-being-foster.html" rel="nofollow">McCollum: Ban gays from being foster parents</a></p>
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		<title>By: Priya Lynn</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2010/06/04/23253/comment-page-1#comment-69912</link>
		<dc:creator>Priya Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 15:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Candace in your context there is no distinction between nothing is counterproductive and nothing will be counterproductive.  If you had said nothing has been counterproductive then you might have had a point.  As it is the way you said it its implicit that nothing can be counterproductive to the anti-gay cause in Florida and that is nonsense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Candace in your context there is no distinction between nothing is counterproductive and nothing will be counterproductive.  If you had said nothing has been counterproductive then you might have had a point.  As it is the way you said it its implicit that nothing can be counterproductive to the anti-gay cause in Florida and that is nonsense.</p>
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		<title>By: Candace</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2010/06/04/23253/comment-page-1#comment-69887</link>
		<dc:creator>Candace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jun 2010 21:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good god, priya.... &quot;that will be&quot; and &quot;is&quot; are two different things.  

Feel free to continue to tell me how great it will be for the gay cause when all those future-tense things happen and I&#039;ll continue to tell you how sh*tty it is for the gays who live here NOW.

&quot;will be&quot;
&quot;is

Try hard to get this concept, k?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good god, priya&#8230;. &#8220;that will be&#8221; and &#8220;is&#8221; are two different things.  </p>
<p>Feel free to continue to tell me how great it will be for the gay cause when all those future-tense things happen and I&#8217;ll continue to tell you how sh*tty it is for the gays who live here NOW.</p>
<p>&#8220;will be&#8221;<br />
&#8220;is</p>
<p>Try hard to get this concept, k?</p>
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		<title>By: Priya Lynn</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2010/06/04/23253/comment-page-1#comment-69877</link>
		<dc:creator>Priya Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jun 2010 15:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Candace you said nothing is counterproductive to the anti-gay cause in Florida - that&#039;s nonsense.

When gays are allowed to adopt that will be counter-productive to the anti-gay cause.  If a civil union law were to be passed that would be counter-productive to the anti-gay cause.  Any advancement for gays in Florida would be counter-productive to the anti-gay cause.  The idea that nothing is counterproductive to the anti-gay cause is obviously nonsense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Candace you said nothing is counterproductive to the anti-gay cause in Florida &#8211; that&#8217;s nonsense.</p>
<p>When gays are allowed to adopt that will be counter-productive to the anti-gay cause.  If a civil union law were to be passed that would be counter-productive to the anti-gay cause.  Any advancement for gays in Florida would be counter-productive to the anti-gay cause.  The idea that nothing is counterproductive to the anti-gay cause is obviously nonsense.</p>
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		<title>By: Candace</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2010/06/04/23253/comment-page-1#comment-69872</link>
		<dc:creator>Candace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jun 2010 06:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is what I said:  NOTHING is counter-productive to the anti-gay cause in Florida.

You said that&#039;s nonsense because McCollum lost the adoption case.

Oh my, they lost the case on adoption.  How many times is it now? Twice?  Three times?   And are gays allowed to adopt in Florida?  Why no, they&#039;re not.  

The reality is that h8ters continue to win every contest on gay rights in Florida.  Oh, every now and then some county passes a non-discrimination ordinance. Key West treats gays decently.  It&#039;s better than nothing.

Why are the campaigns so unequal?  Because they&#039;re so smart and strong and god is on their side and they have the strength of ten because their hearts are pure?  Hell, no.  It&#039;s because most gay people here don&#039;t give a rat&#039;s ass about politics.  

I spent WEEKS talking to gays and lesbians before the vote 2 years ago that banned  civil unions in Florida.  I stressed how important it was to vote, begged people to vote, and stood in line myself for over 4 hours to cast a vote.  Not a ONE of the gay people I spoke to, voted. NONE of them.  They were just too tired to stand in those long lines. That&#039;s what they told me, they didn&#039;t want to stand in line.  And the church devils passed a proposition that not only enforces the state DOMA, it bans civil unions and domestic partnerships too.  And my wonderful black neighbors and friends took the opportunity to wave to me and my partner --as we stood in line beside them, electing our first black President-- and went inside to vote against gay rights, to keep me a second-class citizen.  Thanks a bunch for that.

It&#039;s the perfect storm:   ignorant fundie homophobes throw themselves into every campaign and the gay people talk a lot of talk but that&#039;s about as far as it goes.  Feh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is what I said:  NOTHING is counter-productive to the anti-gay cause in Florida.</p>
<p>You said that&#8217;s nonsense because McCollum lost the adoption case.</p>
<p>Oh my, they lost the case on adoption.  How many times is it now? Twice?  Three times?   And are gays allowed to adopt in Florida?  Why no, they&#8217;re not.  </p>
<p>The reality is that h8ters continue to win every contest on gay rights in Florida.  Oh, every now and then some county passes a non-discrimination ordinance. Key West treats gays decently.  It&#8217;s better than nothing.</p>
<p>Why are the campaigns so unequal?  Because they&#8217;re so smart and strong and god is on their side and they have the strength of ten because their hearts are pure?  Hell, no.  It&#8217;s because most gay people here don&#8217;t give a rat&#8217;s ass about politics.  </p>
<p>I spent WEEKS talking to gays and lesbians before the vote 2 years ago that banned  civil unions in Florida.  I stressed how important it was to vote, begged people to vote, and stood in line myself for over 4 hours to cast a vote.  Not a ONE of the gay people I spoke to, voted. NONE of them.  They were just too tired to stand in those long lines. That&#8217;s what they told me, they didn&#8217;t want to stand in line.  And the church devils passed a proposition that not only enforces the state DOMA, it bans civil unions and domestic partnerships too.  And my wonderful black neighbors and friends took the opportunity to wave to me and my partner &#8211;as we stood in line beside them, electing our first black President&#8211; and went inside to vote against gay rights, to keep me a second-class citizen.  Thanks a bunch for that.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the perfect storm:   ignorant fundie homophobes throw themselves into every campaign and the gay people talk a lot of talk but that&#8217;s about as far as it goes.  Feh.</p>
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		<title>By: Priya Lynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Priya Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jun 2010 03:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Candace losing the case on gay adoption was a setback to the anti-gay cause in Florida.  A civil union law would be a setback to the anti-gay cause in Florida.  The idea that nothing in Florida would be a setback to the anti-gay cause is nonsense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Candace losing the case on gay adoption was a setback to the anti-gay cause in Florida.  A civil union law would be a setback to the anti-gay cause in Florida.  The idea that nothing in Florida would be a setback to the anti-gay cause is nonsense.</p>
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		<title>By: Swampfox</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2010/06/04/23253/comment-page-1#comment-69859</link>
		<dc:creator>Swampfox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jun 2010 19:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where is Rekers these days.  Is he still denying everything?  Meanwhile, Ted Haggard is going to establish a new church.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where is Rekers these days.  Is he still denying everything?  Meanwhile, Ted Haggard is going to establish a new church.</p>
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		<title>By: Candace</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2010/06/04/23253/comment-page-1#comment-69835</link>
		<dc:creator>Candace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jun 2010 05:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Uhhh…I’m not buying that.&quot;

Uhhh.... that&#039;s because you don&#039;t live in South Florida.

Do you really think that we haven&#039;t fought back against the anti-gay right wingers here?  Of course we have.  What have we accomplished?  Not much of a damn thing, even though 2 days in a row don&#039;t go by without me getting solicitations from a dozen FLA organizations &quot;fighting anti-gay discrimination.&quot;  

McCullom&#039;s attitude is typical of Floridians.

btw, this is my all-time favorite dirty- politics-as-usual from Florida anti-gays:

http://www.newser.com/story/83442/anti-gay-adoption-org-mixes-lesbian-photos.html

Nice mullet, huh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Uhhh…I’m not buying that.&#8221;</p>
<p>Uhhh&#8230;. that&#8217;s because you don&#8217;t live in South Florida.</p>
<p>Do you really think that we haven&#8217;t fought back against the anti-gay right wingers here?  Of course we have.  What have we accomplished?  Not much of a damn thing, even though 2 days in a row don&#8217;t go by without me getting solicitations from a dozen FLA organizations &#8220;fighting anti-gay discrimination.&#8221;  </p>
<p>McCullom&#8217;s attitude is typical of Floridians.</p>
<p>btw, this is my all-time favorite dirty- politics-as-usual from Florida anti-gays:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.newser.com/story/83442/anti-gay-adoption-org-mixes-lesbian-photos.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.newser.com/story/83442/anti-gay-adoption-org-mixes-lesbian-photos.html</a></p>
<p>Nice mullet, huh?</p>
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		<title>By: Burr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Burr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jun 2010 05:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kinda old but I didn&#039;t see it mentioned..

&lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.tampabay.com/buzz/2010/05/bill-mccollums-gay-senior-adviser-adopted-children.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bill McCollum&#039;s gay senior adviser adopted children&lt;/a&gt;

WTF is wrong with both of these guys..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kinda old but I didn&#8217;t see it mentioned..</p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.tampabay.com/buzz/2010/05/bill-mccollums-gay-senior-adviser-adopted-children.html" rel="nofollow">Bill McCollum&#8217;s gay senior adviser adopted children</a></p>
<p>WTF is wrong with both of these guys..</p>
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		<title>By: Regan DuCasse</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2010/06/04/23253/comment-page-1#comment-69784</link>
		<dc:creator>Regan DuCasse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 19:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You beat me to it, Priya Lynn. McCollum, regardless of the high cost, and dubious veracity of what Rekers could offer, you&#039;d think that McCollum would just bag the idea and move on to something else.

      To echo other points here, no expense was spared because it was other people&#039;s money, and no sacrifice was too great as long as it&#039;s gay people and their lives that are sacrificed.

    The war on gay people has no boundaries. It&#039;s worth exploiting public funds (which gay Floridians contribute to, big time), it&#039;s worth the risk of revealing scandalous issues like Rekers and throwing him to the wolves as (the reason why gay people can&#039;t be trusted).

   The real shame is all this expense, risk of exposure and all other manner of costs waging a war on gay people, doesn&#039;t save children, marriage or get a very serious problem solved in FL.
Like, having homes for children in need.
It&#039;s not like McCollum has any in HIS house.

      I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve seen anything so wasteful, arrogant and cynical as this folly against gay people.

       Were such energy directed elsewhere and the agenda of engaging gay people as allies to solve problems were involved, a lot more problems WOULD be solved.

   Is there a name for such obsession that wastes so much and does nothing good?
I&#039;d like to hear it.

  And this pustule wants to RUN the state?!
Who does he think he is that he should?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You beat me to it, Priya Lynn. McCollum, regardless of the high cost, and dubious veracity of what Rekers could offer, you&#8217;d think that McCollum would just bag the idea and move on to something else.</p>
<p>      To echo other points here, no expense was spared because it was other people&#8217;s money, and no sacrifice was too great as long as it&#8217;s gay people and their lives that are sacrificed.</p>
<p>    The war on gay people has no boundaries. It&#8217;s worth exploiting public funds (which gay Floridians contribute to, big time), it&#8217;s worth the risk of revealing scandalous issues like Rekers and throwing him to the wolves as (the reason why gay people can&#8217;t be trusted).</p>
<p>   The real shame is all this expense, risk of exposure and all other manner of costs waging a war on gay people, doesn&#8217;t save children, marriage or get a very serious problem solved in FL.<br />
Like, having homes for children in need.<br />
It&#8217;s not like McCollum has any in HIS house.</p>
<p>      I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve seen anything so wasteful, arrogant and cynical as this folly against gay people.</p>
<p>       Were such energy directed elsewhere and the agenda of engaging gay people as allies to solve problems were involved, a lot more problems WOULD be solved.</p>
<p>   Is there a name for such obsession that wastes so much and does nothing good?<br />
I&#8217;d like to hear it.</p>
<p>  And this pustule wants to RUN the state?!<br />
Who does he think he is that he should?</p>
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