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	<title>Comments on: Surviving an Exorcism To Cast Out the Gay</title>
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		<title>By: Regan DuCasse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Regan DuCasse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 18:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, Dr. Throckmorton,
You can&#039;t un ring that bell by saying you didn&#039;t think bells ring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Dr. Throckmorton,<br />
You can&#8217;t un ring that bell by saying you didn&#8217;t think bells ring.</p>
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		<title>By: Candace</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2010/06/06/23293/comment-page-1#comment-69966</link>
		<dc:creator>Candace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 06:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always just loved it when some deliverance minister would call out a &quot;demon of tobacco&quot; or a &quot;demon of anger,&quot; like bad habits could be scared away by anointing oil.

Darlene still believes in demons and I don&#039;t believe a word of any of it.  The sun revolving around the earth (which stands on 4 pillars in the sky) was pretty much the last nail in that coffin.  Not to mention insects having 4 legs, the bat is a bird, and all the animals on earth lived within walking distance of Noah&#039;s home in the desert.  Oh, and the ark had 3 stories and millions of animals on board (and every pathogen and disease incubating in the bodies of the animals and people) but only had a single foot-square window for ventilation.

Unbelief is so refreshing!  I&#039;ll take it any day over the loon-bin I attended for church(es).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always just loved it when some deliverance minister would call out a &#8220;demon of tobacco&#8221; or a &#8220;demon of anger,&#8221; like bad habits could be scared away by anointing oil.</p>
<p>Darlene still believes in demons and I don&#8217;t believe a word of any of it.  The sun revolving around the earth (which stands on 4 pillars in the sky) was pretty much the last nail in that coffin.  Not to mention insects having 4 legs, the bat is a bird, and all the animals on earth lived within walking distance of Noah&#8217;s home in the desert.  Oh, and the ark had 3 stories and millions of animals on board (and every pathogen and disease incubating in the bodies of the animals and people) but only had a single foot-square window for ventilation.</p>
<p>Unbelief is so refreshing!  I&#8217;ll take it any day over the loon-bin I attended for church(es).</p>
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		<title>By: Darlene Bogle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darlene Bogle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 02:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard:
I do beleive in the demonic. I belelive that Satan was a demon who was kicked out of heaven. I beleive hell is reserved for all demons, that are fallen angels. I do not, however, beleive that a Christian can be demon possessed. I have seen people under demonic influence. I don&#039;t beleive that there is a demon of homosexuallity that needs to be &quot;cast out.&quot; I think we are who God created us to be, as his LGBT kids. That said, there is a lot of religious superstitious nonsense that is proclaimed in the name of God, and we need to discern what is truth.
I think what people fear or don&#039;t understand is often attributed to the demonic...I prefer to trust that Greater is the holy one inside me, than the evil one in the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard:<br />
I do beleive in the demonic. I belelive that Satan was a demon who was kicked out of heaven. I beleive hell is reserved for all demons, that are fallen angels. I do not, however, beleive that a Christian can be demon possessed. I have seen people under demonic influence. I don&#8217;t beleive that there is a demon of homosexuallity that needs to be &#8220;cast out.&#8221; I think we are who God created us to be, as his LGBT kids. That said, there is a lot of religious superstitious nonsense that is proclaimed in the name of God, and we need to discern what is truth.<br />
I think what people fear or don&#8217;t understand is often attributed to the demonic&#8230;I prefer to trust that Greater is the holy one inside me, than the evil one in the world.</p>
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		<title>By: dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 21:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops -- I meant &#039;lives of the residents&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops &#8212; I meant &#8216;lives of the residents&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 21:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin probably needs to get out of town. If he&#039;s still at the same church it is likely that it and churches like it dominate the religious and social lives of the residence. And sometimes the social life outside the church world in small towns is even less accepting than inside church walls. When the economy gets back on track, find a job in a bigger city, Kevin, and make a new circle of friends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin probably needs to get out of town. If he&#8217;s still at the same church it is likely that it and churches like it dominate the religious and social lives of the residence. And sometimes the social life outside the church world in small towns is even less accepting than inside church walls. When the economy gets back on track, find a job in a bigger city, Kevin, and make a new circle of friends.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Rush</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Rush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 18:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Darlene, I have to wonder, do you (as a pentecostal) still believe in the existence of demons? Or just not in the specific case of homosexuality?

Assuming that belief in demons is an integral part of pentecostal belief, and that you then personally experience evidence that they do not exist, doesn&#039;t that make you wonder how many of the other beliefs are also just superstitious nonsense?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darlene, I have to wonder, do you (as a pentecostal) still believe in the existence of demons? Or just not in the specific case of homosexuality?</p>
<p>Assuming that belief in demons is an integral part of pentecostal belief, and that you then personally experience evidence that they do not exist, doesn&#8217;t that make you wonder how many of the other beliefs are also just superstitious nonsense?</p>
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		<title>By: Candace</title>
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		<dc:creator>Candace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 18:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Darlene-- those who have never been in anything charismatic or pentecostal, have NO IDEA of what Armenian theology requires of a person:  salvation is never guaranteed or accomplished, but must be worked out daily, hourly, &amp; by the minute.  Any sin could be the one that dooms you to hell.  Stay prayed up.  Seek forgiveness daily-- better yet, constantly.  Get saved over and over and over.  Your leaders know more than you do, and if they &quot;discern&quot; you have demons, they are right.  There are demons everywhere and in everybody.  If you laugh in their face at the stupidity, it is just proof of how strong your demons are.

And they convince you by mixing in JUST ENOUGH truth that you&#039;re not sure-- and when the fate of your family is thrown into the mix, you become overwhelmed.

I walked out of that mess 10 years ago, but I still have concern for those who don&#039;t have the means or courage to do that.  People don&#039;t understand how strong the hold is, unless they&#039;ve been there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darlene&#8211; those who have never been in anything charismatic or pentecostal, have NO IDEA of what Armenian theology requires of a person:  salvation is never guaranteed or accomplished, but must be worked out daily, hourly, &amp; by the minute.  Any sin could be the one that dooms you to hell.  Stay prayed up.  Seek forgiveness daily&#8211; better yet, constantly.  Get saved over and over and over.  Your leaders know more than you do, and if they &#8220;discern&#8221; you have demons, they are right.  There are demons everywhere and in everybody.  If you laugh in their face at the stupidity, it is just proof of how strong your demons are.</p>
<p>And they convince you by mixing in JUST ENOUGH truth that you&#8217;re not sure&#8211; and when the fate of your family is thrown into the mix, you become overwhelmed.</p>
<p>I walked out of that mess 10 years ago, but I still have concern for those who don&#8217;t have the means or courage to do that.  People don&#8217;t understand how strong the hold is, unless they&#8217;ve been there.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy (TRiG)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy (TRiG)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 17:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Religion is such a great force for evil in this world.

TRiG.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Religion is such a great force for evil in this world.</p>
<p>TRiG.</p>
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		<title>By: Darlene Bogle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darlene Bogle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 16:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a lesbian and also a pentecostal christian. Over 40 years ago, I was subjected to my &quot;first deliverance&quot; session from a famous deliverance minister. It didn&#039;t work! I have had folks trying to cast the demon of homosexuallity out of me for years! It doesn&#039;t work because WHO I am cannot be a demon, or cast out! I know Peterson, and the experiences he has endured, and I&#039;m sure there are hundreds of other who have been subject to this treatment. The desire for acceptance by God and the church has led to great abuse, verbally and with the laying on of hands. I pray for Kevin, that He will come to know that he, as a christian cannot be demon possessed, and that God loves Him unconditionally!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a lesbian and also a pentecostal christian. Over 40 years ago, I was subjected to my &#8220;first deliverance&#8221; session from a famous deliverance minister. It didn&#8217;t work! I have had folks trying to cast the demon of homosexuallity out of me for years! It doesn&#8217;t work because WHO I am cannot be a demon, or cast out! I know Peterson, and the experiences he has endured, and I&#8217;m sure there are hundreds of other who have been subject to this treatment. The desire for acceptance by God and the church has led to great abuse, verbally and with the laying on of hands. I pray for Kevin, that He will come to know that he, as a christian cannot be demon possessed, and that God loves Him unconditionally!</p>
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		<title>By: Swampfox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Swampfox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 15:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin needs to go another church.  He has a long life ahead, I wish him well.</description>
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