Comments on: Tea Partiers support overturn of DOMA

By: Priya Lynn

Priya Lynn — Sat, 10 Jul 2010 14:26:46 +0000

Justsearching is right. No statistician would accept a handful of quotes as being representative of what tea partiers believe. Absent a statistically significant representative poll these quotes are meaningless.

By: justsearching

justsearching — Sat, 10 Jul 2010 13:41:57 +0000

I’ll believe it if I see a poll to back it up, one that asked self-avowed Tea-Partiers about their opinions of this recent ruling. My guess is that some of the more prominent Tea Partiers and some of the libertarian-leaning ones might be ambivalent about or supportive of this ruling, but that the the majority would be against.

By: Neon Genesis

Neon Genesis — Sat, 10 Jul 2010 13:21:29 +0000

I found this poll from way back in April this year which said the Tea Party was less likely to support the ban of gay marriage, but they were also more likely to be supportive of getting rid of all marriage including civil unions: http://www.dallasvoice.com/instant-tea/poll-tea-party-backers-are-17-less-likely-to-support-gay-marriage-than-the-general-public/ So it makes sense you haven’t heard much complaints from the Tea Party about DOMA. The Tea Party wants to abolish all forms of government recognized marriage including civil unions.

By: Ben Mathis

Ben Mathis — Sat, 10 Jul 2010 12:15:36 +0000

State’s rights is, and always will be, code for private tyranny. Chomsky says it far better than I.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxT1VLNamR8

By: Other Fred in the UK

Other Fred in the UK — Sat, 10 Jul 2010 09:06:03 +0000

My guess is that for many conservatives this judgement presents a real political dilemma, do they fail to support States rights or do they, de facto, support gay marriage. I suspect that many do not want to give quotes out that show them to be doing either of those two things.

By: cooner

cooner — Sat, 10 Jul 2010 08:12:47 +0000

I don’t live there, but the impression I’ve gotten about Iowa is that while not many people there like the idea of gay marriage, now that it’s law they mostly shrug their shoulders and figure it doesn’t affect them, so they’d rather focus on more important things. It seems like attempts by anti-gay activists to whip up support there are greeted with a collective shrug.

I kind of get the sense that other than some vocally social-conservative splinters, the bulk of the Tea Party groups are probably similar. Most of them don’t care for gay rights or gay marriage per se, but they seem more interested in devoting their efforts towards cutting taxes, undoing healthcare reform, stopping the slow march of socialism, etc. etc.

I could be wrong, of course; only time will tell.

By: Lynn David

Lynn David — Sat, 10 Jul 2010 06:40:09 +0000

Surprised, I am…. bet these guys are in a really small minority, though. Even the people calling themselves libertarian these days are very libertarian about sexual matters.

By: Lindoro Almaviva

Lindoro Almaviva — Sat, 10 Jul 2010 06:40:06 +0000

But the problem is that one of the decisions said that DOMA violates the due process, that will be the same argument that eventually will dissolve all those marriage protection acts

By: Ryan

Ryan — Sat, 10 Jul 2010 06:23:48 +0000

@lindoro, actually, challenging DOMA on 10 Amendment grounds would mean that the Prop 8 case would logically be upheld, since it would affirm the California’s right to define marriage for itself, just as invalidating DOMA affirms Massachusetts’ right to do the same. It’s a shockingly reasoned and consistent point of view from the Tea Party leaders quoted in the article. But let’s not forget that the Texas Tea Party wants us in jail. So I’m thinking these quotes were somewhat cherry picked.

By: Lindoro Almaviva

Lindoro Almaviva — Sat, 10 Jul 2010 03:31:14 +0000

The only reason why they like it being overturned is because now they can create a frenzy of fear about the gay monster being able to marry and thus make sure that more stated pass “marriage protection” laws.

They do not like the federal government sponsored discrimination because then they can not do their little witch hunts themselves.

Funny thing is that, if DOMA is unconstitutional, they can not correlate the fact that all those “marriage protection acts” will also be found unconstitutional on the same grounds.