Comments on: Argentina legalizes same-sex marriage

By: John in MN

John in MN — Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:26:33 +0000

A HUGE contratulations to Argentina!!

By: Pony Pisador

Pony Pisador — Fri, 16 Jul 2010 23:59:08 +0000

Congratulations to our Argentine cousins! Uruguay passed same-sex civil unions 3 years ago. El Pais, the major daily paper, noted that gay rights groups in Uruguay will now begin the process of “upgrading” to full same-sex marriage rights. In Uruguay, laws are typically passed via consensus, so gay activists have said they will start on writing a bill with the Faculty of Rights at the University of the Republic, which should be ready for submission to the lower house of the legislature in 4-5 months, with possible passage next year. It will change the wording of marriage from “mujer y hombre” to “conjugals” meaning any adults of any sex wishing to marry. Already parties of the left, including one Senator, has said that “Uruguayan society is diverse, and accepting of these new realities”. Uruguay has a strong left of center government which is friendly to our cause (passed gays workers rights, adoption and military service all during the last 4 years) so we’re very optimistic that we could be next. Vamos Celeste = y la mano de Suarez!

By: Burr

Burr — Thu, 15 Jul 2010 21:31:47 +0000

Congratulations to Argentina.

My parents moved from there to the U.S. so that I could be born in a country with more freedom. It’s sad to see how futile that may have been at least in one aspect of my life. Shame on my birth country for its utter failure to live up to its mission statement. I’m proud of my heritage for now at least.

Spain won the World Cup after legalizing gay marriage. Netherlands made it all the way to the final. Uruguay punched above their weight making it to the semifinals after creating civil unions. I think Argentina is due for a win in 2014 now unless Brazil does something by then. :)

By: ebohlman

ebohlman — Thu, 15 Jul 2010 21:05:57 +0000

Argentina is atoning for letting Mark Sanford visit.

By: cd

cd — Thu, 15 Jul 2010 20:54:08 +0000

@Becky- here’s a Youtube version of the same clip with an English translation subtitling…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixVrmrQg9AM

By: cd

cd — Thu, 15 Jul 2010 20:44:05 +0000

What strikes me as significant here, beyond the excellent result, is that for Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner this isn’t a difficult issue at all. She’s thought about it and heard the arguments, but you can tell that for her and the serious people around her it’s not a matter in which they have real doubts about what’s right anymore, either personally or politically.

The picture I’m getting from the news lately is that for the cosmopolitan elites worldwide, whatever ambiguity they still felt about gay rights and gay marriage is draining away. It’s been a five to ten year argument worldwide and the people whose role is to be ahead of the curve in their countries, and the arguably most civilized, have pretty much reached consensus.

And to look at the opposition, it’s increasingly clear that the opposition has likewise shaken out- into all sorts of agendas, most of which are only indirectly about gay people. It’s mostly about the authority of Organized Religion, or privileging certain kinds of existing dysfunctional social groupings, or denialism about certain kinds of biological or psychological realities.

There’s still a long way to go, of course. But in my opinion it’s not just incremental victories anymore: there’s a feeling of the terrain changing, of transformation for the better.

By: Becky

Becky — Thu, 15 Jul 2010 19:55:57 +0000

Kirchner has some great lines.
I wish I had time to write up an English translation of her best point for everyone, but I really really don’t. Anybody else have time?

By: justsearching

justsearching — Thu, 15 Jul 2010 17:46:02 +0000

or retaliating against God for having the “mano de Dios” stolen from them by the Uruguayan, Luis Suarez.

In all seriousness though, a sincere felicitaciones to the Argentinians. Now we have gay marriage to the north, gay marriage to the south, and gay marriage in our mists.

By: Bruno

Bruno — Thu, 15 Jul 2010 17:01:32 +0000

Clearly Argentina was retaliating against God for being crushed in the World Cup.

By: Timothy Kincaid

Timothy Kincaid — Thu, 15 Jul 2010 16:08:53 +0000

I think we can agree. If God sends a plague of zombies to roam the streets of Buenos Aires crying out, “Los cerebros! Quiero comer tu cerebro!” then we will know that He disapproves of marriage equality.

I might also consider werewolves or vampires as an acceptable alternative.