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		<title>By: Tommy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tommy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 05:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Oh, BTB, so sad you use the guise of political correctness to push your brand of hate and intolerance towards anyone who isn’t a far-leftist lemming.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oh, Ricky Lee, you should probably pay closer attention to this site. There&#039;s quite a spirited discussion about where on the political spectrum it falls, and occasionally if it is too kind to Republicans.

Although I would like a definition of what qualifies as &quot;far-leftist.&quot; My feeling is that it shall be quite humorous.

&lt;blockquote&gt;It’s sad your site is reduced to spreading the hate you say you’re trying to prevent.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And what, exactly, is this &quot;hate?&quot; I&#039;ve read the article and the following comments and while they have a breadth of reaction (apathy, disillusionment and cynicism, irony, and occasionally helpfulness), none of them could be described as &quot;hate[ful].&quot; So please, educate us.  

&lt;blockquote&gt;It’s pointed only at those with a moral fiber because we have the audacity to tell the world the simple logical truth that living the gay lifestyle that’s currently marketed to gays that chances are pretty good you will get an STD. That’s a fact.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I rather question your moral fiber. But please define &quot;pretty good.&quot; As it stands you made a useless claim. I can say anyone&#039;s chances are &quot;pretty good&quot; of getting an STD. After all a virgin&#039;s chances of getting an STD are &quot;pretty good&quot; if we include all forms of Herpes.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Funny how the next comment will be those who defend the proliferation of STD’s by stating there’s no way to prove that being gay will give you an STD more than it won’t. I guess Hooked oh Phonics didn’t work for you.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Funny how you failed to substantiate your claim, nor did you set up objective standards for it. Looks like you are engaging in projection as you were the one who set such a subjective, unverifiable claim as &quot;pretty good&quot; without setting up what, exactly, you mean by that.

In the future, try harder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Oh, BTB, so sad you use the guise of political correctness to push your brand of hate and intolerance towards anyone who isn’t a far-leftist lemming.</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh, Ricky Lee, you should probably pay closer attention to this site. There&#8217;s quite a spirited discussion about where on the political spectrum it falls, and occasionally if it is too kind to Republicans.</p>
<p>Although I would like a definition of what qualifies as &#8220;far-leftist.&#8221; My feeling is that it shall be quite humorous.</p>
<blockquote><p>It’s sad your site is reduced to spreading the hate you say you’re trying to prevent.</p></blockquote>
<p>And what, exactly, is this &#8220;hate?&#8221; I&#8217;ve read the article and the following comments and while they have a breadth of reaction (apathy, disillusionment and cynicism, irony, and occasionally helpfulness), none of them could be described as &#8220;hate[ful].&#8221; So please, educate us.  </p>
<blockquote><p>It’s pointed only at those with a moral fiber because we have the audacity to tell the world the simple logical truth that living the gay lifestyle that’s currently marketed to gays that chances are pretty good you will get an STD. That’s a fact.</p></blockquote>
<p>I rather question your moral fiber. But please define &#8220;pretty good.&#8221; As it stands you made a useless claim. I can say anyone&#8217;s chances are &#8220;pretty good&#8221; of getting an STD. After all a virgin&#8217;s chances of getting an STD are &#8220;pretty good&#8221; if we include all forms of Herpes.</p>
<blockquote><p>Funny how the next comment will be those who defend the proliferation of STD’s by stating there’s no way to prove that being gay will give you an STD more than it won’t. I guess Hooked oh Phonics didn’t work for you.</p></blockquote>
<p>Funny how you failed to substantiate your claim, nor did you set up objective standards for it. Looks like you are engaging in projection as you were the one who set such a subjective, unverifiable claim as &#8220;pretty good&#8221; without setting up what, exactly, you mean by that.</p>
<p>In the future, try harder.</p>
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		<title>By: ricky lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>ricky lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 05:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, BTB, so sad you use the guise of political correctness to push your brand of hate and intolerance towards anyone who isn&#039;t a far-leftist lemming. It&#039;s sad your site is reduced to spreading the hate you say you&#039;re trying to prevent. It&#039;s pointed only at those with a moral fiber because we have the audacity to tell the world the simple logical truth that living the gay lifestyle that&#039;s  currently marketed to gays that chances are pretty good you will get an STD. That&#039;s a fact. Funny how the next comment will be those who defend the proliferation of STD&#039;s by stating there&#039;s no way to prove that being gay will give you an STD more than it won&#039;t. I guess Hooked oh Phonics didn&#039;t work for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, BTB, so sad you use the guise of political correctness to push your brand of hate and intolerance towards anyone who isn&#8217;t a far-leftist lemming. It&#8217;s sad your site is reduced to spreading the hate you say you&#8217;re trying to prevent. It&#8217;s pointed only at those with a moral fiber because we have the audacity to tell the world the simple logical truth that living the gay lifestyle that&#8217;s  currently marketed to gays that chances are pretty good you will get an STD. That&#8217;s a fact. Funny how the next comment will be those who defend the proliferation of STD&#8217;s by stating there&#8217;s no way to prove that being gay will give you an STD more than it won&#8217;t. I guess Hooked oh Phonics didn&#8217;t work for you.</p>
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		<title>By: nikko</title>
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		<dc:creator>nikko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 20:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course Alan is not a happy, straight man. If he were, he wouldn&#039;t go around telling/judging other gay/bi people that they&#039;re wrong. No happy person does that. So yes, Alan is a counterfeit, because we all know you cannot willfully change your homo/bisexual orientation. He&#039;s a deluded christian. He tries hard to believe his own testimony, and makes a career out of it. Pathetic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course Alan is not a happy, straight man. If he were, he wouldn&#8217;t go around telling/judging other gay/bi people that they&#8217;re wrong. No happy person does that. So yes, Alan is a counterfeit, because we all know you cannot willfully change your homo/bisexual orientation. He&#8217;s a deluded christian. He tries hard to believe his own testimony, and makes a career out of it. Pathetic.</p>
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		<title>By: GreenEyedLilo</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreenEyedLilo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 12:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Timothy, you&#039;re right. As a bisexual woman, I know what it&#039;s like to have people on all sides tell me wildly inaccurate things about my life.  Not ask, *tell*.  So I try not to do it to others.  But I did it to Alan, and I shouldn&#039;t.

So strike part of the sentence:

&lt;i&gt;Man, I sure wish I could live a happy life like Alan, &lt;strike&gt;with someone I have to force myself to fake sexual attraction to&lt;/strike&gt;, no real marketable skills beyond the ability to sell snake oil for Jesus, scaring a shrinking base of donors about Teh Eevhul Gays for income, and trying to sucker a new generation of scared LGBT teens from conservative backgrounds into ruining their lives.&lt;/i&gt;

As for the rest, well, it&#039;s a matter of public record, and he&#039;s got plenty to answer to on those scores.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Timothy, you&#8217;re right. As a bisexual woman, I know what it&#8217;s like to have people on all sides tell me wildly inaccurate things about my life.  Not ask, *tell*.  So I try not to do it to others.  But I did it to Alan, and I shouldn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>So strike part of the sentence:</p>
<p><i>Man, I sure wish I could live a happy life like Alan, <strike>with someone I have to force myself to fake sexual attraction to</strike>, no real marketable skills beyond the ability to sell snake oil for Jesus, scaring a shrinking base of donors about Teh Eevhul Gays for income, and trying to sucker a new generation of scared LGBT teens from conservative backgrounds into ruining their lives.</i></p>
<p>As for the rest, well, it&#8217;s a matter of public record, and he&#8217;s got plenty to answer to on those scores.</p>
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		<title>By: David Farrell</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Farrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 06:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know a counterfeit is a counterfeit when the happiness and freedom it initially promised ends up leading to deeper bondage.

That is exactly what Exodus was for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know a counterfeit is a counterfeit when the happiness and freedom it initially promised ends up leading to deeper bondage.</p>
<p>That is exactly what Exodus was for me.</p>
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		<title>By: William</title>
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		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 16:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“And no one would question the integrity of Alan’s assertions of being free and happy, if he didn’t have to do it at gay people’s expense.”

Yes, Regan, you have zeroed in on the crux of the matter there. It seems that Alan can’t be content with the life that he has chosen without knocking gay people’s relationships as “counterfeit”. And he opposes any legal recognition of gay relationships because had that legal recognition been available some years ago, he might have gone for it himself and might not now have been living his present chosen lifestyle. Therefore the option shouldn’t be available to anyone else now. How much more bloody selfish can a bloke get?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“And no one would question the integrity of Alan’s assertions of being free and happy, if he didn’t have to do it at gay people’s expense.”</p>
<p>Yes, Regan, you have zeroed in on the crux of the matter there. It seems that Alan can’t be content with the life that he has chosen without knocking gay people’s relationships as “counterfeit”. And he opposes any legal recognition of gay relationships because had that legal recognition been available some years ago, he might have gone for it himself and might not now have been living his present chosen lifestyle. Therefore the option shouldn’t be available to anyone else now. How much more bloody selfish can a bloke get?</p>
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		<title>By: Regan DuCasse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Regan DuCasse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 01:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kosle, I think after looking at this thread that I&#039;m the only ever heterosexual to post at this point.

  Let me put it this way, I know the difference between leather and naugahyde. Know what I&#039;m saying?
  And the buyer should beware the naugahyde is trying convince it&#039;s real leather.


   Selling heterosexuality like it&#039;s the magic affect to keeping up with the straight Joneses IS insulting.
NO hetero has to try that hard. And he&#039;s insulting everyone by assuming that heterosexuals DON&#039;T have similar problems, but aren&#039;t required to reveal their lives and be scrutinized like gay people are.
  
  And no one would question the integrity of Alan&#039;s assertions of being free and happy, if he didn&#039;t have to do it at gay people&#039;s expense.

  He should go off and profit in OTHER ways that aren&#039;t about the marketing of stereotypes.
Stereotypes AREN&#039;T real. Whether it&#039;s the stereotype of straight people and their lives, or gay people and their lives.

    He&#039;s playing to a crowd eager for deception. He&#039;s judging someone else&#039;s happiness by that deception.
   So. Wrong. And WE know it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kosle, I think after looking at this thread that I&#8217;m the only ever heterosexual to post at this point.</p>
<p>  Let me put it this way, I know the difference between leather and naugahyde. Know what I&#8217;m saying?<br />
  And the buyer should beware the naugahyde is trying convince it&#8217;s real leather.</p>
<p>   Selling heterosexuality like it&#8217;s the magic affect to keeping up with the straight Joneses IS insulting.<br />
NO hetero has to try that hard. And he&#8217;s insulting everyone by assuming that heterosexuals DON&#8217;T have similar problems, but aren&#8217;t required to reveal their lives and be scrutinized like gay people are.</p>
<p>  And no one would question the integrity of Alan&#8217;s assertions of being free and happy, if he didn&#8217;t have to do it at gay people&#8217;s expense.</p>
<p>  He should go off and profit in OTHER ways that aren&#8217;t about the marketing of stereotypes.<br />
Stereotypes AREN&#8217;T real. Whether it&#8217;s the stereotype of straight people and their lives, or gay people and their lives.</p>
<p>    He&#8217;s playing to a crowd eager for deception. He&#8217;s judging someone else&#8217;s happiness by that deception.<br />
   So. Wrong. And WE know it.</p>
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		<title>By: Candace</title>
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		<dc:creator>Candace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No one said Alan isn&#039;t happy or unhappy with the life he has allowed christians to foist on him:  we simply point out that he is still as queer as a $3 bill, no matter how much he protests that he isn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one said Alan isn&#8217;t happy or unhappy with the life he has allowed christians to foist on him:  we simply point out that he is still as queer as a $3 bill, no matter how much he protests that he isn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 19:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alan Chambers has a particular personal insight into counterfeit relationships.  He&#039;s a gay man married to a woman. 

His life is a lie perpetuated by religious shame.  If that isn&#039;t the definition of counterfeit then I don&#039;t know what is.

I pity him the day when he realizes he spent his life living for others approval and denied himself the authentic life he was too afraid to live.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan Chambers has a particular personal insight into counterfeit relationships.  He&#8217;s a gay man married to a woman. </p>
<p>His life is a lie perpetuated by religious shame.  If that isn&#8217;t the definition of counterfeit then I don&#8217;t know what is.</p>
<p>I pity him the day when he realizes he spent his life living for others approval and denied himself the authentic life he was too afraid to live.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 19:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guys,

I think we should not rush to assume that we know Alan&#039;s life any more than he does ours.  We have no reason to doubt that Alan is contented in having a wife he loves, a conflicted but satisfactory sex life, two kids he adores, faith that he finds meaningul, and a job that he believes to be important.

It is possible that he might have been even happier had he settled down with a nice man instead of Leslie.  And it is also possible that he is secretly miserable.  We can&#039;t know.

But we can do what we ask him to do: take his word for it.  He says that he&#039;s happy and I accept that.  

And, ya know something, I hope he really is.  I hope that he never finds the life he&#039;s crafted to be less than fulfilling.

I only wish he&#039;d stop assuming that he knows our lives more than we do and just leave us alone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys,</p>
<p>I think we should not rush to assume that we know Alan&#8217;s life any more than he does ours.  We have no reason to doubt that Alan is contented in having a wife he loves, a conflicted but satisfactory sex life, two kids he adores, faith that he finds meaningul, and a job that he believes to be important.</p>
<p>It is possible that he might have been even happier had he settled down with a nice man instead of Leslie.  And it is also possible that he is secretly miserable.  We can&#8217;t know.</p>
<p>But we can do what we ask him to do: take his word for it.  He says that he&#8217;s happy and I accept that.  </p>
<p>And, ya know something, I hope he really is.  I hope that he never finds the life he&#8217;s crafted to be less than fulfilling.</p>
<p>I only wish he&#8217;d stop assuming that he knows our lives more than we do and just leave us alone.</p>
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