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	<title>Comments on: On Thursday, NOM will be touring Crazyville</title>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>STAY HOME.  DO NOT PROTEST THIS NOM EVENT IN ST CLOUD.  NOM is only looking for confrontation. So they can document &quot;harassment and intimidation&quot; from gay people they will then use to defend not disclosing their donor names to the states where they have funded anti-gay marriage ballot initiatives.

Don&#039;t give them the ammunition.  Stay home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>STAY HOME.  DO NOT PROTEST THIS NOM EVENT IN ST CLOUD.  NOM is only looking for confrontation. So they can document &#8220;harassment and intimidation&#8221; from gay people they will then use to defend not disclosing their donor names to the states where they have funded anti-gay marriage ballot initiatives.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t give them the ammunition.  Stay home.</p>
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		<title>By: Tommy</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2010/07/27/24712/comment-page-1#comment-73821</link>
		<dc:creator>Tommy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 05:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To quote George Washington, &quot;It is now no more that toleration is spoken of as if it were the indulgence of one class of people that another enjoyed the exercise of their inherent natural rights, for, happily, the Government of the United States, which gives to bigotry no sanction, to persecution no assistance, requires only that they who live under its protection should demean themselves as good citizens in giving it on all occasions their effectual support.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To quote George Washington, &#8220;It is now no more that toleration is spoken of as if it were the indulgence of one class of people that another enjoyed the exercise of their inherent natural rights, for, happily, the Government of the United States, which gives to bigotry no sanction, to persecution no assistance, requires only that they who live under its protection should demean themselves as good citizens in giving it on all occasions their effectual support.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ben in Oakland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben in Oakland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 03:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The sexual reovlution has been destroying osciety for 45 years. 

Not greed. not war. not degradation of the environment. not rampant consumerism. not party-centered politics. not racial and religious discirmination. Not poverty. not drugs. not corrupt corporations and politicians. Not divisive social issues that only consewrvative christians care about. not crime. not depletion of our treasury and national honor. not the decay of our once envy-of-the-worlsd educational system.  

Funny, how for fundamentalists, all of the worlds problems are caused by sex that other poeple are having. Do you know how really old testament you sound? 

and yet, the world has continued to survive.

And of course, the merely collateral damage that has been inflicted on gay people is of course of no consequence at all. not the murders. not aids. not laws atatcking our fmailies, not sodomy laws. Not DADT. none of it.

Sexual immorality as defined by conservative Christians. That&#039;s all of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The sexual reovlution has been destroying osciety for 45 years. </p>
<p>Not greed. not war. not degradation of the environment. not rampant consumerism. not party-centered politics. not racial and religious discirmination. Not poverty. not drugs. not corrupt corporations and politicians. Not divisive social issues that only consewrvative christians care about. not crime. not depletion of our treasury and national honor. not the decay of our once envy-of-the-worlsd educational system.  </p>
<p>Funny, how for fundamentalists, all of the worlds problems are caused by sex that other poeple are having. Do you know how really old testament you sound? </p>
<p>and yet, the world has continued to survive.</p>
<p>And of course, the merely collateral damage that has been inflicted on gay people is of course of no consequence at all. not the murders. not aids. not laws atatcking our fmailies, not sodomy laws. Not DADT. none of it.</p>
<p>Sexual immorality as defined by conservative Christians. That&#8217;s all of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Rush</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Rush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 03:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kosle, since you spoke of &lt;em&gt;&quot;the sexual revolution that has been destroying society for &lt;b&gt;45 years&lt;/b&gt;. . .&lt;/em&gt;&quot;, that would be starting in 1965, which happens to be the year the U.S. Supreme Court overturned a law in Connecticut banning the use of contraceptives (Griswold v. Connecticut). So, do you view that as the tragic first step that has been &quot;destroying society.&quot;

Where exactly did you get your master’s degree in social science?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kosle, since you spoke of <em>&#8220;the sexual revolution that has been destroying society for <b>45 years</b>. . .</em>&#8220;, that would be starting in 1965, which happens to be the year the U.S. Supreme Court overturned a law in Connecticut banning the use of contraceptives (Griswold v. Connecticut). So, do you view that as the tragic first step that has been &#8220;destroying society.&#8221;</p>
<p>Where exactly did you get your master’s degree in social science?</p>
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		<title>By: Lindoro Almaviva</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lindoro Almaviva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 01:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are we talking about the same Maggie Galagher who got pregnant out of wedlock, didn&#039;t marry the father of her kid, married someone out of her own religion and now walks around telling people how they should live their lives according to her standards?

Look around you! Women are already getting pregnant out of wedlock, not getting married and marrying late. 

If Maggie was so courageous, she would talk about these things, she would bring her non-christian husband to all those rallies, he would stand by her side as she spews her nonsense. She would bring her family and her &quot;gay friends&quot;.

Maggie Moo is as brave as a monkey in front of a lake with a hungry lion behind him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are we talking about the same Maggie Galagher who got pregnant out of wedlock, didn&#8217;t marry the father of her kid, married someone out of her own religion and now walks around telling people how they should live their lives according to her standards?</p>
<p>Look around you! Women are already getting pregnant out of wedlock, not getting married and marrying late. </p>
<p>If Maggie was so courageous, she would talk about these things, she would bring her non-christian husband to all those rallies, he would stand by her side as she spews her nonsense. She would bring her family and her &#8220;gay friends&#8221;.</p>
<p>Maggie Moo is as brave as a monkey in front of a lake with a hungry lion behind him.</p>
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		<title>By: Burr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Burr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 01:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What social ills? We&#039;re better off than we&#039;ve ever been. You really want to turn back the clock to where irrational prejudice was predominant?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What social ills? We&#8217;re better off than we&#8217;ve ever been. You really want to turn back the clock to where irrational prejudice was predominant?</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 01:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Incidentally, kosle, you do realize that by posting the above you are leaving the impression that you think that Moslems are trying to take over America by supporting the gay agenda... or did you even read the commentary?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Incidentally, kosle, you do realize that by posting the above you are leaving the impression that you think that Moslems are trying to take over America by supporting the gay agenda&#8230; or did you even read the commentary?</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 01:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kosle,

No doubt you think that civil freedom and equality are things which are only to be doled out to those with whom you agree.  In which case you would find Gallagher to be brilliant, as she too only believes in liberty for those with whom she agrees (which is no liberty at all).

I, however, find Jefferson to be brilliant.  And Thomas Paine.  And Jesus Christ.  And so many of the other thinkers who believed that the best life is achieved when all have fair access and an equal standing.  Of course many of them did not see this in terms of gay people, but their principles have survived the moments and circumstances of their era and are as brilliant today as when they applied them.

Gallagher would have been appalled at any of them and thought that they were destroying society.  Had Maggie lived at the time of any of the freedom lovers, she would have valiantly strived to arrest their movements.  And you would have applauded her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kosle,</p>
<p>No doubt you think that civil freedom and equality are things which are only to be doled out to those with whom you agree.  In which case you would find Gallagher to be brilliant, as she too only believes in liberty for those with whom she agrees (which is no liberty at all).</p>
<p>I, however, find Jefferson to be brilliant.  And Thomas Paine.  And Jesus Christ.  And so many of the other thinkers who believed that the best life is achieved when all have fair access and an equal standing.  Of course many of them did not see this in terms of gay people, but their principles have survived the moments and circumstances of their era and are as brilliant today as when they applied them.</p>
<p>Gallagher would have been appalled at any of them and thought that they were destroying society.  Had Maggie lived at the time of any of the freedom lovers, she would have valiantly strived to arrest their movements.  And you would have applauded her.</p>
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		<title>By: kosle</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2010/07/27/24712/comment-page-1#comment-73802</link>
		<dc:creator>kosle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 00:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maggie Gallagher is a brilliant woman fighting a courageous battle.  Most of the social ills of our day can be traced back to the loosening of sexual standards, the cultural prohibitions that formed good families and kept them together. The gay movement is just the last stage of the sexual revolution that has been destroying society for 45 years and Gallagher is striving valiantly to arrest it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maggie Gallagher is a brilliant woman fighting a courageous battle.  Most of the social ills of our day can be traced back to the loosening of sexual standards, the cultural prohibitions that formed good families and kept them together. The gay movement is just the last stage of the sexual revolution that has been destroying society for 45 years and Gallagher is striving valiantly to arrest it.</p>
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		<title>By: Burr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Burr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 22:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He probably thinks we were attacked on 9/11 by Al Gayda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He probably thinks we were attacked on 9/11 by Al Gayda.</p>
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