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	<title>Comments on: Schadenfreude Alert, Part 2: NOM Is Apoplectic</title>
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	<description>News, analysis and fact-checking of anti-gay rhetoric</description>
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		<title>By: Michael McKeon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael McKeon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 18:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And never in history has the right to marry been given to an American and then taken away by vote based on Mormon and biblical b*ll sh*t.  But little missy Brian left that part out.  I count the days til he is found with a bag of meth and a rent boy.

Peace,
Michael McKeon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And never in history has the right to marry been given to an American and then taken away by vote based on Mormon and biblical b*ll sh*t.  But little missy Brian left that part out.  I count the days til he is found with a bag of meth and a rent boy.</p>
<p>Peace,<br />
Michael McKeon</p>
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		<title>By: TampaZeke</title>
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		<dc:creator>TampaZeke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 16:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I get so tired of hearing them make statements that would lead one to believe that an overwhelming majority of Californians have spoken out loudly in their opposition to marriage.

Even if we were to convince ourselves that 100% of Californians VOTED, their claim would be inflated.  A small majority of those WHO VOTED opposed marriage equality.

The fact of the matter is about 16% of Californians voted to oppose marriage equality and 15% voted to support it.  When you look at these FACTUAL numbers they don&#039;t look so convincing for the marriage opponents.

The news media needs to point this out each and every time they make their bogus claim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I get so tired of hearing them make statements that would lead one to believe that an overwhelming majority of Californians have spoken out loudly in their opposition to marriage.</p>
<p>Even if we were to convince ourselves that 100% of Californians VOTED, their claim would be inflated.  A small majority of those WHO VOTED opposed marriage equality.</p>
<p>The fact of the matter is about 16% of Californians voted to oppose marriage equality and 15% voted to support it.  When you look at these FACTUAL numbers they don&#8217;t look so convincing for the marriage opponents.</p>
<p>The news media needs to point this out each and every time they make their bogus claim.</p>
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		<title>By: jOHN</title>
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		<dc:creator>jOHN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 15:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We expected nothing different&quot; from Maggie and Brian....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We expected nothing different&#8221; from Maggie and Brian&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: John in MN</title>
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		<dc:creator>John in MN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 14:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate it when Brown says there&#039;s no right to gay marriage in the constitution.  If he actually READ the thing, he would notice that there&#039;s no right to marriage PERIOD!  

So I ask Brian: What gives you special treatment?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate it when Brown says there&#8217;s no right to gay marriage in the constitution.  If he actually READ the thing, he would notice that there&#8217;s no right to marriage PERIOD!  </p>
<p>So I ask Brian: What gives you special treatment?</p>
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		<title>By: cd</title>
		<link>http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2010/08/04/25043/comment-page-1#comment-74658</link>
		<dc:creator>cd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 05:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I don’t mind that someone disagrees with this ruling. However, the totally hysterical tone of the anti-gay people is mind boggling … you’d think they just legalized child molestation.&lt;/i&gt;

It&#039;s being widely observed today that Walker&#039;s verdict and their own failure to mount a serious defense has annihilated the remaining credibility of their argument.  That credibility has been eroding all along, as ever more pieces of it have become untenable.  Walker sifted through the wreckage and it&#039;s 138 pages of showing his earnest labor to discover, but not finding, any substantive or respectworthy basis to their claims.

It&#039;s a lot like federal judge John Paul Stevens&#039;s verdict in Kitzmiller v Dover in 2004 that annihilated the Intelligent Design game.  Everyone knew that one wasn&#039;t a close call, but the verdict knocked out every leg the ID people had to stand on.  It&#039;s not that Stevens even intended to, it&#039;s just that it was all rot and prevarication below the very thin surface on their side.  They whined pitifully but didn&#039;t even bother to appeal it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I don’t mind that someone disagrees with this ruling. However, the totally hysterical tone of the anti-gay people is mind boggling … you’d think they just legalized child molestation.</i></p>
<p>It&#8217;s being widely observed today that Walker&#8217;s verdict and their own failure to mount a serious defense has annihilated the remaining credibility of their argument.  That credibility has been eroding all along, as ever more pieces of it have become untenable.  Walker sifted through the wreckage and it&#8217;s 138 pages of showing his earnest labor to discover, but not finding, any substantive or respectworthy basis to their claims.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a lot like federal judge John Paul Stevens&#8217;s verdict in Kitzmiller v Dover in 2004 that annihilated the Intelligent Design game.  Everyone knew that one wasn&#8217;t a close call, but the verdict knocked out every leg the ID people had to stand on.  It&#8217;s not that Stevens even intended to, it&#8217;s just that it was all rot and prevarication below the very thin surface on their side.  They whined pitifully but didn&#8217;t even bother to appeal it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark F.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 04:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t mind that someone disagrees with this ruling. However, the totally hysterical tone of the anti-gay people is mind boggling ...  you&#039;d think they just legalized child molestation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t mind that someone disagrees with this ruling. However, the totally hysterical tone of the anti-gay people is mind boggling &#8230;  you&#8217;d think they just legalized child molestation.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 02:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No Dustin, because those judges would rule correctly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No Dustin, because those judges would rule correctly.</p>
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		<title>By: Dustin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dustin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 02:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand why they keep harping on the fact that Walker is gay.  If he was an Evangelical, would they have asked him to step down because his religious beliefs would have presented a conflict of interest?  What about a judge who&#039;s a member of the NRA presiding over a gun rights case...do they think that should be disallowed as well?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand why they keep harping on the fact that Walker is gay.  If he was an Evangelical, would they have asked him to step down because his religious beliefs would have presented a conflict of interest?  What about a judge who&#8217;s a member of the NRA presiding over a gun rights case&#8230;do they think that should be disallowed as well?</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 02:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“With a stroke of his pen...&quot;

Uh, actually, Brian, it was 138 pages worth of strokes of his pen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“With a stroke of his pen&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Uh, actually, Brian, it was 138 pages worth of strokes of his pen.</p>
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		<title>By: Lindoro Almaviva</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lindoro Almaviva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 00:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please, we all knew they were getting ready to loose the trial and were looking for reasons to play the victim card.

People like this make me sick and bring the worst in me so i am going to take a breath and count to 10.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please, we all knew they were getting ready to loose the trial and were looking for reasons to play the victim card.</p>
<p>People like this make me sick and bring the worst in me so i am going to take a breath and count to 10.</p>
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