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	<title>Comments on: Mexico&#8217;s Catholic Church threatens war</title>
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		<title>By: MauraHennessey</title>
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		<dc:creator>MauraHennessey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Aug 2010 23:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In 1921, the Catholic Church did declare war upon the Mexican government and incited a multiple years long uprising that killed tens of thousands.

Some Catholic writers have compared the Alcalde of Mexico City with Franco and Pinochet; odd given that the Church supported the bloody uprisings against democratically elected governments that swept these mass murderers into power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In 1921, the Catholic Church did declare war upon the Mexican government and incited a multiple years long uprising that killed tens of thousands.</p>
<p>Some Catholic writers have compared the Alcalde of Mexico City with Franco and Pinochet; odd given that the Church supported the bloody uprisings against democratically elected governments that swept these mass murderers into power.</p>
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		<title>By: ebohlman</title>
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		<dc:creator>ebohlman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Aug 2010 03:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sandoval is really starting to remind me of Orly Taitz. Maybe they can team up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sandoval is really starting to remind me of Orly Taitz. Maybe they can team up.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynn David</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynn David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Aug 2010 21:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But not caring enough to go to war over the drug trade in Mexico.... maybe the Catholic Church in Mexico is trading in narcotics?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But not caring enough to go to war over the drug trade in Mexico&#8230;. maybe the Catholic Church in Mexico is trading in narcotics?</p>
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		<title>By: Terry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Aug 2010 20:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In regards to war, it wouldn&#039;t be the first time that the catholic church waged war against Mexico and all the other countries south of the border littering each town with a cathedral right in the middle so all could remember the hate, murder and abuse they brought while attempting to remove any sign of a previous culture or people in the name of God.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In regards to war, it wouldn&#8217;t be the first time that the catholic church waged war against Mexico and all the other countries south of the border littering each town with a cathedral right in the middle so all could remember the hate, murder and abuse they brought while attempting to remove any sign of a previous culture or people in the name of God.</p>
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		<title>By: TampaZeke</title>
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		<dc:creator>TampaZeke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Aug 2010 19:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too bad the drug cartel nightmare that&#039;s reeking havoc across the country hasn&#039;t drawn as much passion or concern from the unholy Roman empirialists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too bad the drug cartel nightmare that&#8217;s reeking havoc across the country hasn&#8217;t drawn as much passion or concern from the unholy Roman empirialists.</p>
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		<title>By: darkmoonman</title>
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		<dc:creator>darkmoonman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Aug 2010 18:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s past time to strip churches of their special status.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s past time to strip churches of their special status.</p>
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		<title>By: Aconite</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aconite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Aug 2010 16:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>During the Middle Ages, countries that got into pissing matches with the Church could find themselves under interdict.  No sacraments were performed--NONE--in such countries.  No baptisms, no confessions, no last rites, no marriages.  No exceptions.   The strategy was to scare the population with threats of hellfire and damnation (since the Church and its sacraments stood between you and hell, and without them...) until one way or another--political pressure, civil war, what have you--the countries&#039; leaders bowed to the Church.

The Church is an institution very, very slow to change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>During the Middle Ages, countries that got into pissing matches with the Church could find themselves under interdict.  No sacraments were performed&#8211;NONE&#8211;in such countries.  No baptisms, no confessions, no last rites, no marriages.  No exceptions.   The strategy was to scare the population with threats of hellfire and damnation (since the Church and its sacraments stood between you and hell, and without them&#8230;) until one way or another&#8211;political pressure, civil war, what have you&#8211;the countries&#8217; leaders bowed to the Church.</p>
<p>The Church is an institution very, very slow to change.</p>
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		<title>By: John Doucette</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Doucette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Aug 2010 16:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, the bishop started this, not the mayor. All the mayor did was respond.
Also, what is Rome doing about this? Isn&#039;t Rome supposed to be in charge of its bishops?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, the bishop started this, not the mayor. All the mayor did was respond.<br />
Also, what is Rome doing about this? Isn&#8217;t Rome supposed to be in charge of its bishops?</p>
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		<title>By: John Graykoski</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Graykoski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Aug 2010 13:46:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting indeed...
After the Mexican revolution, the Church was strictly repressed, priests and nuns were not allowed to wear clerical garb in public.  This was because the Church, as it frequently does in history, stood with the powerful, the rich.  Clearly, the Roman Church yearns for the old days of priviledge when they stood at the right hand of the King. 
The efforts of John Paul and now Benedict to return to a Church controlled by a few secretive men has been largely successful.  And sadly, unless the Holy Spirit can conjure up a tornadic wind of change, the placement of bishops throughout the world who support this mindset will ensure the doctrinaire alighnment of the Church with the rich and powerful of the world for many years.  This of course means enforcement of rigid &quot;morality&quot; at the sake of justice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting indeed&#8230;<br />
After the Mexican revolution, the Church was strictly repressed, priests and nuns were not allowed to wear clerical garb in public.  This was because the Church, as it frequently does in history, stood with the powerful, the rich.  Clearly, the Roman Church yearns for the old days of priviledge when they stood at the right hand of the King.<br />
The efforts of John Paul and now Benedict to return to a Church controlled by a few secretive men has been largely successful.  And sadly, unless the Holy Spirit can conjure up a tornadic wind of change, the placement of bishops throughout the world who support this mindset will ensure the doctrinaire alighnment of the Church with the rich and powerful of the world for many years.  This of course means enforcement of rigid &#8220;morality&#8221; at the sake of justice.</p>
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		<title>By: Russ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Aug 2010 09:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So the cardinal mouthed off.  The mayor would have done well to just blow it off and let the gays celebrate their new equality, and let the news sink in gently with the straight community.

Of course I don&#039;t know - and I suspect the writer of this article doesn&#039;t know either - all the behind-the-scenes talk and the history of the relationship of church and government down there.

But from this distance it sounds like a schoolyard brawl that is totally unnecessary and will do nobody any good whatsoever.  

&quot;Mom!  He called me a dirty name!&quot;

Ya know, guys?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So the cardinal mouthed off.  The mayor would have done well to just blow it off and let the gays celebrate their new equality, and let the news sink in gently with the straight community.</p>
<p>Of course I don&#8217;t know &#8211; and I suspect the writer of this article doesn&#8217;t know either &#8211; all the behind-the-scenes talk and the history of the relationship of church and government down there.</p>
<p>But from this distance it sounds like a schoolyard brawl that is totally unnecessary and will do nobody any good whatsoever.  </p>
<p>&#8220;Mom!  He called me a dirty name!&#8221;</p>
<p>Ya know, guys?</p>
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