Religionists who argue that their morality is objective because it is based on an imaginary god are laughably deluded. They are guilty of the ethical relativism that they accuse others of. Their morality is based on the subjective ideas of the primitive bronze age goat herders pretending to speak for a god. That’s no different then saying right and wrong depend on which culture you live in.

http://www.kvia.com/video/24644887/index.html

The fact that this “priest” quotes Nicolosi make me want to upchuck. Shame, shame on him!

My favorite line is this one:

“Para rematar Sandoval Íñiguez puso a la venta monedas de oro y plata con su rostro impreso , ¿qué tal…?, para financiar el santuario de los mártires de Cristo, entre los que se encontraban varios terroristas que fueron pasados por las armas durante el gobierno del presidente Calles…”

Nice. Minting coins in his image to finance the construction of a “shrine to martyrs” which would include, among others, terrorists”"

Piling On — when a commenter posts an inordinate number of comments on a thread in an attempt to dominate the conversation. If you really have that much to say, perhaps you should expend some of that energy on your own blog.”

Ladies and gentleman, I present to you the future creator of his very own blog site, L. Junius Brutus! Kidding, kidding. Sort of…

Really? I envy you, if you have never met people who think that there is no objective right and wrong, and that right and wrong depend on the culture in which you happen to live. It’s so rampant that Rachels and Pojman both spend a chapter refuting it in their respective works on ethical philosophy.

From your own source: The first stage of this process was the translation into Arabic of Greek philosophical and scientific works that had been preserved by Eastern Christians in Mesopatamia, Syria and Egypt. The translators were mostly Nestorian and Jacobite Christians, working in the two hundred years following the Abbasid period…Almost all translators were Nestorian and Syrian Christians…Greek-speaking Christian missionaries…had kept Aristotle’s ideas alive in order to debate philosophy and increase the quality of their medical practices.

“Oh to be back in the “Greco-Roman” times, when people could own other humans as property”

True, slavery existed in Greece and Rome, just like it existed everywhere else in the world (big surprise). On the other hand, Saudi-Arabia allowed slavery until 1962, and the Islamic world that you regard as so civilized was a hotbed of slavery and slave-trading in the Middle Ages, whereas it was largely absent in the Christian world. The Ottomans kidnapped children from Christian families, enslaved them, forced them to convert to Islam, and made them fight for the Sultan. So much for civilization.

“pederasty was institutionalized and expected, ”

False. It was voluntary, as in a teacher-pupil relationship, and the boys were usually around 16 years old – which is no different than the age at which girls were married. Many centuries after the collapse of Greek independence and the splintering of Greek culture, Muhammad took a 6-year-old girl as his “wife” and slept with her when she was 9 – something that is still being practiced throughout the Islamic world.

“and women had little to know civil rights. ”

Roman women actually had a great deal of freedom and autonomy. Greek women were somewhat worse off.

“Oh, and I never said “Islam made Western Civilization.” It did help preserve the Classical portions of it, however, in a big big way.”

It preserved absolutely zilch. As I stated before (an argument that you conveniently ignored), we have Greek manuscripts of classical texts. “Or did you actually think that modern translations of Plato come from medieval Arabic translations?”

BTW, you said: “Europe owes much to Islam. If Christianity were the sole influence, who knows what kind of squalor Europe would be in.” This is basically saying that Islam made Western civilization, as you are saying that Europe would be in some kind of squalor without it.

“LOL!!! someone needs a more productive and exciting life than to sit by their monitor waiting for ME to show up.”

Don’t worry, you’re not that exciting. However, considering the dislike that you have for Christianity, and your admiration for Islam, I did expect it.

Uh-huh. I’ve never met any such person. I think you’re imagining what you want to think exists.

LOL!!! someone needs a more productive and exciting life than to sit by their monitor waiting for ME to show up.

Oh to be back in the “Greco-Roman” times, when people could own other humans as property, pederasty was institutionalized and expected, and women had little to know civil rights. Oh and imperialism was rampant. (Democracy had a good couple centuries though.)