Comments on: Yes, you violated our stupid anti-gospel rulebook

By: Matt

Matt — Tue, 31 Aug 2010 01:22:05 +0000

Lofn,

By: Lofn G

Lofn G — Mon, 30 Aug 2010 07:46:37 +0000

Why doesn’t anyone just start their own new denomination? Isn’t that kind of the point of even having protestantism?

This is why so many youths are now turning to atheism. When one chooses a church, they are offered the choice between a church who considers homosexuality a sin, and a church that allows it, but pretends it isn’t happening. We deserve more options here. We should be able to choose a denomination that can help us develop and discover our spiritual selves without conflicting with what we believe to be true. We deserve more churches that AFFIRM our relationships, and doesn’t oppose or ignore them.

Even if current denominations start accepting same-sex relationships, the damage has been done. Many people just aren’t going to come back. And why should they? You want to save religion, go form a church. Don’t try to revive a church that no one would give a second chance to.

I respect those who want to try to save old churches, but you have to know that many of us can never go back now, and if you really care about reaching people, you need to think about how we feel. I was lucky enough to find a church where I live that actually affirms gay people. Will I be so lucky when I move back to Texas? Will my children feel any desire to look for a church? Shouldn’t we think about what we can do for them?

By: DaveM

DaveM — Sat, 28 Aug 2010 17:41:07 +0000

Well, the PC(USA) punted at their General Conference last month — there were several resolutions condemning same-sex nuptuals and reaffirming the rule in opposition, and several resolutions to alter their rules and affirm same-sex weddings, and they voted through a study document in “answer” to all of those pieces of business.

I’m not sure whether the PC(USA) or United Methodists will be next to officially bless same-sex marriages — but by 2020, both will. It’s just a matter of time and age.

By: Gentle Lamb

Gentle Lamb — Sat, 28 Aug 2010 16:02:22 +0000

Why would they stay in the Presbyterian Church ?

By: justsearching

justsearching — Sat, 28 Aug 2010 15:38:22 +0000

Kudos to the US Presbyterians for having lesbian churches. :D

By: Ben in Oakland

Ben in Oakland — Sat, 28 Aug 2010 15:27:19 +0000

“Instead of all that effort to change people who don’t want to change, why not support people with whom you already agree?”

And there you have the dilemma, except just the opposite of what you might think.

Protect marriage? The only way to do that is to attack same sex marriage.

By: Matthew Gatheringwat

Matthew Gatheringwat — Sat, 28 Aug 2010 05:02:05 +0000

I have a hard time getting worked up about this kind of thing. I think religions have the right to define themselves however they want–they are voluntary organizations. If her beliefs differ, why not join a religion that actually welcomes gay people? Sometimes, I wonder what’s in it for people who make a career out of being an unwelcome “prophet.” Instead of all that effort to change people who don’t want to change, why not support people with whom you already agree?

By: Richard W. Fitch

Richard W. Fitch — Sat, 28 Aug 2010 04:50:30 +0000

The letter of the law is so much more important than the Spirit of the law.

By: Graham

Graham — Sat, 28 Aug 2010 01:55:07 +0000

Um,

Why is there no coverage here at BTB about the Target campaign donation & the reaction to it? It’s basically one of the most prominent LGBT-related news items floating about the blogosphere, and I go here for not just such news items, but analysis as well. Deafening silence from you lot though. What’s up guys?

By: Mark F.

Mark F. — Sat, 28 Aug 2010 01:43:01 +0000

Since Presbyterians believe in predestination, why don’t they just accept this as the will of God?