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	<title>Comments on: PJI and Meese argue nonsense, sue Governor and AG</title>
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		<title>By: Timothy Kincaid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy Kincaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 22:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason,

The Attorney General did defend Proposition 8.  He has no obligation to appeal the decision.

As I said, I&#039;m not a lawyer.  But I think that is the legal point to be made.  And CA&#039;s 5th appellate court agreed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason,</p>
<p>The Attorney General did defend Proposition 8.  He has no obligation to appeal the decision.</p>
<p>As I said, I&#8217;m not a lawyer.  But I think that is the legal point to be made.  And CA&#8217;s 5th appellate court agreed.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 22:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with Rob
http://wakingupnow.com/blog/i-dont-want-no-special-rights

I wish the gay orgs had addressed the meat of their argument, It&#039;s a little surprising that BTB didn&#039;t even address it which is this:

&lt;i&gt;&quot;The Attorney General shall attend the Supreme Court and prosecute or defend all causes to which the State, or any State officer is a party in his or her official capacity.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

This is from California&#039;s Government code
http://law.justia.com/california/codes/2007/gov/12510-12530.html

I&#039;m not saying it&#039;s open and shut here, but I didn&#039;t see anyone address this, and it seems a legitimate argument. Evidently not as much as PJI thought, but still it would&#039;ve been nice to see something other than a dismissal out of our side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with Rob<br />
<a href="http://wakingupnow.com/blog/i-dont-want-no-special-rights" rel="nofollow">http://wakingupnow.com/blog/i-dont-want-no-special-rights</a></p>
<p>I wish the gay orgs had addressed the meat of their argument, It&#8217;s a little surprising that BTB didn&#8217;t even address it which is this:</p>
<p><i>&#8220;The Attorney General shall attend the Supreme Court and prosecute or defend all causes to which the State, or any State officer is a party in his or her official capacity.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>This is from California&#8217;s Government code<br />
<a href="http://law.justia.com/california/codes/2007/gov/12510-12530.html" rel="nofollow">http://law.justia.com/california/codes/2007/gov/12510-12530.html</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying it&#8217;s open and shut here, but I didn&#8217;t see anyone address this, and it seems a legitimate argument. Evidently not as much as PJI thought, but still it would&#8217;ve been nice to see something other than a dismissal out of our side.</p>
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		<title>By: Grant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 20:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe. My. God. just broke the news that the suit has been thrown out summarily by the court. Just as you predicted. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe. My. God. just broke the news that the suit has been thrown out summarily by the court. Just as you predicted. ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Willie Hewes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Willie Hewes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 08:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This just strikes me as pointless posturing. Could they really believe their own stupid argument?

What a waste of time and money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This just strikes me as pointless posturing. Could they really believe their own stupid argument?</p>
<p>What a waste of time and money.</p>
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		<title>By: Lindoro Almaviva</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lindoro Almaviva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 03:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again, they are just trying to force the governor&#039;s hand and all I have to say is: Be careful what you wish for, you might get it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, they are just trying to force the governor&#8217;s hand and all I have to say is: Be careful what you wish for, you might get it.</p>
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		<title>By: Regan DuCasse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Regan DuCasse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 02:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Defend Prop. 8 with what?!
There was no evidence, no credible witnesses. How are they going to uphold any appeal on nothing?

 &quot;Because the majority says so&quot;, against a distinct and PERPETUAL minority, isn&#039;t saying much in the first place.
 These people act like that vote was &#039;fair and square&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Defend Prop. 8 with what?!<br />
There was no evidence, no credible witnesses. How are they going to uphold any appeal on nothing?</p>
<p> &#8220;Because the majority says so&#8221;, against a distinct and PERPETUAL minority, isn&#8217;t saying much in the first place.<br />
 These people act like that vote was &#8216;fair and square&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: MJC</title>
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		<dc:creator>MJC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 00:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meese is mentioned in Jeff Sharlet&#039;s _The Family_ as being heavily involved in that organization, church, secret society, or whatever it is. Need I remind readers of BTB where The Family stands on the rights of gay people? Why am I not surprised?

But this suit is a loser for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meese is mentioned in Jeff Sharlet&#8217;s _The Family_ as being heavily involved in that organization, church, secret society, or whatever it is. Need I remind readers of BTB where The Family stands on the rights of gay people? Why am I not surprised?</p>
<p>But this suit is a loser for them.</p>
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		<title>By: iDavid</title>
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		<dc:creator>iDavid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 23:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn&#039;t agree with you more. Noone has to appeal if they don&#039;t choose to. End of story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree with you more. Noone has to appeal if they don&#8217;t choose to. End of story.</p>
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		<title>By: Lindoro Almaviva</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lindoro Almaviva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 22:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and if it is not, that means that the 9th WILL have to hear the case and that will mean that all those Marriage Protection Acts that fall under its jurisdiction could be overturned and marriage equality could come to several states at once.


I see it as 6 one way half a dozen the other. No mater what, they are very likely to lose in the 9Th and I bet there are many, MANY anti-gay lobby groups passing a pineapple right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and if it is not, that means that the 9th WILL have to hear the case and that will mean that all those Marriage Protection Acts that fall under its jurisdiction could be overturned and marriage equality could come to several states at once.</p>
<p>I see it as 6 one way half a dozen the other. No mater what, they are very likely to lose in the 9Th and I bet there are many, MANY anti-gay lobby groups passing a pineapple right now.</p>
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